Xoutpost.com

Xoutpost.com (https://xoutpost.com/forums.php)
-   X5 (E70) Forum (https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e70-forum/)
-   -   Valet complimented my backing camera (https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e70-forum/79842-valet-complimented-my-backing-camera.html)

kck7 03-09-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 810582)
(and odds are that sometimes he will park next to you).

Can you explain the logic of this sentence? Unless probability is zero (a coin toss yields something other than heads or tails, and edges do not count), the odds are always in favor of 'sometimes', no matter what.

Anyway- I liken valet parking to skydiving, and self-parking to airplane travel. I can avoid the first behavior, which I see as far more risky than the second, mostly unavoidable, less risky behavior. Both involve going up in the air and coming down (analogous to parking the car so as to get to some place). I also have more control over my own parking situation than I have of air travel. I can choose to park far enough that Joe Sixpack probably isn't interested in parking there, squeeze next to a curb, etc).

Penguin 03-09-2011 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 810582)
It isn't the valet you need to worry about, it is the lowest common denominator (and odds are that sometimes he will park next to you).

Around Chicago you definitely should worry about the valet, as a recent article indicated many of them do not have a valid drivers license.

JCL 03-09-2011 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kck7 (Post 810606)
Can you explain the logic of this sentence? Unless probability is zero (a coin toss yields something other than heads or tails, and edges do not count), the odds are always in favor of 'sometimes', no matter what.

Anyway- I liken valet parking to skydiving, and self-parking to airplane travel. I can avoid the first behavior, which I see as far more risky than the second, mostly unavoidable, less risky behavior. Both involve going up in the air and coming down (analogous to parking the car so as to get to some place). I also have more control over my own parking situation than I have of air travel. I can choose to park far enough that Joe Sixpack probably isn't interested in parking there, squeeze next to a curb, etc).

Sure. I should have said "and odds are that eventually he will park next to you" Said another way, no matter how careful you are in parking, eventually Joe Sixpack will try and squeeze in next to you. In a valet lot, Joe isn't parking his own vehicle. You can park better than the valet, but the valet probably parks better than Joe. And Joe can hit you without you even being there.

Using your airplane/skydiving analogy, skydiving has some additional risk. However, if Joe Sixpack just bought a plane, and has landing privileges, flying may not be as safe as previously thought.

JCL 03-09-2011 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Penguin (Post 810617)
Around Chicago you definitely should worry about the valet, as a recent article indicated many of them do not have a valid drivers license.

Point taken. And given the driving habits evident on the highways/toll roads leading from O'hare, some drivers may not have licenses either.

kck7 03-10-2011 12:56 AM

@JCL: So according to your last two ripostes:

1. It is possible that drivers in Chicago don't have licenses, thus breaking the law.
2. Joe Sixpack can buy a plane (really? ol' Joe?) AND get landing privileges, all without a license, and even pilot a commercial airliner (the only aircraft most people board) without a license, job screening, training, certification, etc. Making the people letting him do all this equally to blame.

So you freely accept the likelihood that you live among criminals such as these, but you'd trust your nice car to a pimply-faced valet, all the while assuming he'll park your car carefully. This is usually a kid who couldn't finish high school.

Is there any argument you won't make in a feeble attempt to sell your POV?

JCL 03-10-2011 01:24 AM

@kck7:

Who's selling? I am just keeping a thread alive without talking about back-up cameras, the other topic the OP raised apart from valet parkers.

Lighten up. Or not. ;)

Penguin 03-10-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 810634)
And given the driving habits evident on the highways/toll roads leading from O'hare, some drivers may not have licenses either.

You are correct. And I'm not gonna give them the keys to my X5 either! :D


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:02 PM.

vBulletin, Copyright 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved.