Need help considering a 08 4.8 X5 CPO
 

Hey everyone, new to the forum but I have been lurking for awhile. I am in search of a 08 4.8 and came across one. The dealer sent me the service record and I'm not sure if I should be concerned. I would appreciate any help you guys and gals can give me. Here it is:

04942 01 214700 03/17/2011 358771 03/16/2011 03/17/2011 0 45,252 34117777MP FRONT BRAKE PADS & ROTORS - MAINTENANCE PLAN


22007 01 57800 06/08/2010 29005 06/04/2010 06/08/2010 0 36,461 10320105MP STATE & LOCAL TAXES - FULL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM
11720376MP ENG AIR FILTER-DIRTY-MP
85990091MP OIL SERVICE(MP)AFTER THE 1ST
85990501MP STANDARD OPERATION MP


22007 01 16660 04/16/2010 22194 04/08/2010 04/16/2010 13 33,489 5412211300 Frame/module, panorama roof/slide/tilt sunroof broken


22007 01 7500 04/05/2010 21364 03/29/2010 04/05/2010 5 33,269 1178037900 Oxygen monitor sensor incorrect connection /contact
3421193900 Rear brake pad wear sensor unpleasant noises


31643 01 394020 01/21/2010 558675 01/11/2010 01/21/2010 4 29,773 1251908100 E6* E70 N62/TU Fault code entry, throttle-valve potentiometer (engine wiring
harness)
34000077MP BRAKE FLUID CHANGE- FULL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM
85990501MP STANDARD OPERATION MP


22007 01 814250 01/07/2010 10366 12/21/2009 01/07/2010 10 29,978 6583010200 Entertainment CCC (Car Communication Computer) Navi Professional, failure
Software error / internal
85990101MP VEHICLE CHECK
85990501MP STANDARD OPERATION MP


22007 01 789980 12/05/2009 6938 11/20/2009 12/05/2009 11 29,975 6583010200 Entertainment CCC (Car Communication Computer) Navi Professional, failure
Software error / internal


22007 01 727180 09/11/2009 37526 09/09/2009 09/11/2009 0 24,012 10320105MP STATE & LOCAL TAXES - FULL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM
34110077MP FT BRAKE PADS - MAINTENANCE PLAN
64310237MP MICROFILTER REPLACEMENT
85990091MP OIL SERVICE(MP)AFTER THE 1ST
85990501MP STANDARD OPERATION MP


22007 01 510230 01/02/2009 99947 12/24/2008 01/02/2009 9 12,281 10320105MP STATE & LOCAL TAXES - FULL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM
1178021500 Oxygen control sensor (before catalytic converter) permanent malfunction
2400339800 Positive engagement, delayed, automatic transmission not satisfactory
6213401800 CBS/SIA indicator incorrect due to oil service (DME/DDE - instrument cluster)
incorrect/incomplete r
64310237MP MICROFILTER REPLACEMENT
85990091MP OIL SERVICE(MP)AFTER THE 1ST
85990501MP STANDARD OPERATION MP


22007 01 398580 08/18/2008 84631 08/15/2008 08/18/2008 0 7,077 3452101500 DSC control module permanent malfunction

22007 01 357270 07/01/2008 80113 06/25/2008 07/01/2008 0 5,004 3711043900 Active stabilizer bar ARS, front axle unpleasant noises


04942 01 197220 03/15/2008 299769 03/14/2008 03/15/2008 0 5 11999977BV QCI SPOT DELIVERY



Is there anything I should be really worried about? Something that may have reoccurring problems?

I'd really appreciate anyone's input, thanks!

I smell a buyback/lemon.

I'd want to speak to the prior owner... that car has had A LOT of issues and time in the shop, and some of it may have been significant. You have no idea what the actual complaint were, those are only what the dealer confirmed and logged onto their system.

One of those numbers is the dealer code- I think it is the first 5 digit number. The car was at dealer 22007 for most of the visits, once elsewhere, then wholesaled and a maintenance visit at the last number.

Find out were they were, post the vin and those locations- see if anyone knows the car.

GL

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VIN
 

Wow! Thank you for your reply, that would have been a big headache.

Here is the VIN#5UXFE83508L162768

Location is in Southern California.

Anyone else want to chime in

Thanks!

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I would pass. When I selected my CPO I was very specific on what I could accept and the only issue my car had was a headlight failure. Seeing I-Drive issues would make me run the other way

I said "smell"... This list would cause me to be very careful, but the jury is still out. Could have simply been a lease that got turned in. (I'd never buy a lease, BTW.) What does carfax say about ownership?

It had transmission shifing issues, nav/idrive issues and sunroof issues. That is like every '07/08 known issue list' item, I think.


I may have had the headers wrong..some of the old ones I have are formatted differently.

.Anyway, I tried to see if I had the BMW dealer codes somewhere but I do not.

Good luck in your research.

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Carfax says 1 owner personal lease. What is your opinion on a lease return, why would you not consider it? Nothing significant on the carfax. I'm going to be really patient on this search. Thanks again!

If it was lemoned I would expect that it was turned back in prior to the end of lease. It went out from one dealer (04942), got serviced for three years by another dealer (with one exception) and was then worked on by the original dealer at three years plus a day, getting a brake job under the maintenance plan. Sounds very much like it was simply turned back in to the original dealer.

A bunch of small issues, many of them electrical, but more than should occur with a new vehicle. Then a broken sunroof cassette. All very typical for the E70 in my opinion. I wouldn't worry about anything on here, primarly because there weren't repeat failures and the problems weren't major.

CPO is a good idea, but understand that it is not a guarantee of certified quality, but rather a warranty. It is also not as comprehensive as the original full vehicle warranty, but it is better than nothing.

A lease is a rental.

You do NOT want to buy a car that ard has rented.

(Lessees are simply using -maybe abusing- a car for 3 years, then turn it in and move on... no way to know what kind of care was taken, other than the very minimal BMW specified.)

That is why I would never buy a lease.

Good analysis.

I will again point out that the actual work order- with the customers stated concern- would tell a much better story than this line item reduction.

And of course I agree on the CPO- good for a warranty, but a buyer should do an independent PPI at his own mechanic. PRIOR to purchase. (Thats redundant I know, but can I tell you I've seen people post "I just bought a car and had a PPI and there were all kinds of issues...")

:)

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You all are awesome! This site is great!

IMO, there are plenty of other fish out there. Keep fishing.

Just some advice, I was also looking for a 08 4.8i X5. I was looking at the CPO dealership and I eventually found a fully loaded X5 three states over at a private dealer. I was lied to and then blamed for forgetting something. (The sales guy claimed me told me about the scratches they tried to hide it and then later said he had already told me).

To add, they wanted the SAME price as the non CPO dealer for a car with less than half the options..

The dealer had ferraris, lambos, corvettes, and even a ford gt. I checked the ratings of the dealer before I left (they were all great) and got a clean carfax and everything was well detailed (scratches, etc.)

So the moral is that CPO does mean something, but it's not a full warranty. The car I got also came with a private extended warranty (which I paid extra for) that is good for 100k miles. Thus, you may also want to look at private dealers as well.

Thanks, I'll add that to the search as well. The vehicle I was looking at was almost identical to what you have minus the rear entertainment system. I have a quick question for you, will send a PM

You could safely buy a vehicle that JCL has rented. Well, most of the time.

I think of a lease as a rental that only had one renter. To me, there is a big difference between a three year lease, and a daily rental that was rented out of an airport. I wouldn't worry about buying an ex-lease vehicle, and did once, many years ago. It was a Toyota pickup, and there were 50 of them just off lease, so I got to walk down the rows and pick the cleanest one.

I tend to buy cars and use them for three years or so, and then sell them. I don't lease, since there are no tax advantages here, and since I don't need to finance my vehicles. My point is that every vehicle I sold had been driven for several years by someone that knew he was going to dump it at the end of 36 months. I don't see why that is any different than a vehicle that the lease company held the title to instead of me. I try to take good care of my vehicles, but it is because of respect for the machinery, more than because I own them.

Something we agree on is that an inspection and review of service records will tend to show all this. I think there are ex-lease vehicles that are worth purchasing, and privately owned vehicles that aren't. If you eliminate half the potential vehicles to purchase, ie all the ex-lease ones, you reduce your chances of finding a good one. Just my $0.02

Keep in mind, though, it's slim pickens on a 2 year old X5 (and most premium brands as most lease them) that isn't a lease.

This X5 ended up selling the next day after posting but thanks everyone. Still in the search