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Hosse 05-17-2011 09:19 AM

M sport Steeringwheel mount on E70
 
Ahh.. Good to be back in this lovely forum after being stuck with Porsche Cayenne and bmw backwheel drive for several years:-)

I have ordered a M Sport steeringwheel with heating and F1 gearshift. Is there anyone here that done this DYI on an E70? Offcourse its got an automatic transmission and heating originaly. Is it possible to get the gearshift working?:-) On my Z4 there was only 2 simple cabels to connect.

Thanks!!

Wienaren 05-18-2011 02:28 AM

I did this as well (not DIY, though due to the airbag), and ... surprise... in my 50i LCI the paddles actually work.

Richard in NC 05-18-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wienaren (Post 824827)
I did this as well (not DIY, though due to the airbag), and ... surprise... in my 50i LCI the paddles actually work.

Cool! I want paddles for my 50i...
Might the airbag be the same between the M Sport wheel (that I have) and the X6 or X6 M wheels?

NOX 3.2 05-18-2011 04:04 PM

nice, please post pictures if you do the install

EZDozzit 05-18-2011 07:47 PM

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Hosse 05-28-2011 01:39 PM

Yahoo! Got the wheel today. Brandnew:-) I would really try this myselv. Is that true that this is impossible to DYI? Any special tools or why?

Will take pictures!

Here's the wheel:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/3e10bd3f-4ad4-9c07.jpg

Hosse 05-28-2011 03:57 PM

Ha! This is just like the E53! There is just one spring on each side to press inn. There's 2 hidden holes on the back. I tried to take a picture if it.

It looks really straight forward, so I'm trying this myself tomorrow. Yes, I will disconnect the battery before removing the airbag:-)

http://tapatalk.com/mu/3e10bd3f-53b9-60dd.jpg

kakalika 05-28-2011 04:25 PM

Very interesting. Good luck with your project, and please let us know how it turns out, With pics if possible.

Wienaren 05-28-2011 06:52 PM

Hi, since your car has the heating circuits, could you do me a favor and measure the voltage of the black wire of the heating connector in the wheel (which is connected to the yellow wire coming from the car)

- with engine and heating off,
- with engine on and heating off,
- engine and heating on?

You can measure it against the brown (=white coming from car) wire, which is ground (GND).

Thanks,
Thomas

PS: I see your wheel has no "M" key, so it's not for an M... what part number is that? Is this a wheel for the X6?

Hosse 05-29-2011 07:23 AM

Done! Really easy DIY!

Looks wounderfool!

Wieneren: sorry, but I disconnected the battery under the operation..

I got pictures of everything. PM me for any extra pics.

Before:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/3e10bd3f-2c10-0952.jpg

During:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/3e10bd3f-2c3b-d078.jpg

After:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/3e10bd3f-2c54-e334.jpg

Everything work, except the gearing + and -.. Any tips?

Dking05 05-29-2011 01:22 PM

I have no dead on answer, but...

Just a shot in the dark, but can the wiring be done the same way that it was done in the E53 using the E46 SMG steering colum?

My only stumper is that the shifter on the E7X if fully electric? and there are no wires like the E53 under the boot.

Scenario 1: Buy a E7X ///M steering colum and wiring? (possible flaw: The cars computer does the work?)

What I would try to do is find out how the concept of +/- works in the X5/6M works.

If anything, i'd seach around for other non paddle to paddle conversions (on other models), if any exist.

Hosse 05-30-2011 03:35 AM

Hmm.. I believe that the manual part of the gearbox for E53 is electrical also? I've seen hacks for both Z4, E53, E46 etc, but not yet on E70. Almost all of them lacks 2 cabels from the colum to the gearshifter.

I'll call my dealer today and have them ask around.

Hosse 06-04-2011 04:53 AM

Still no solution for this.. I would really like to have the paddles working. The dealer couldn't help me either.

Does anyone know if the heating will work if I but this wheel on a car that doesn't have heating today?

muddycharles 06-04-2011 12:41 PM

This has been discussed here in the past
 
See this link

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...stalled-4.html


It seems you will need a module 255 for the steering wheel (whatever that is) - and then you most likely will need to go to bmwcoding.com to download the software to configure the module.

I have not tried this (and would like to - I have a 2011 X5 with Msport package) but am waiting for someone else to do this.

Hosse 06-04-2011 03:53 PM

Hehe, no problem! I can go first! I'll order the 255 module on Monday, if it's not a million dollars:-)

My BMW dealer is my neighbour and a really good friend, so I think I can use his carshop one night or to.

If this works, I'll order some kore of these Msport stearingwheels for resale.

ShantF1 06-05-2011 10:05 PM

If you don't have an m pack can you put the X6 sport steering wheel on it?

SCardamon 06-06-2011 06:33 AM

Fanstatic look, great job bro

Hosse 07-04-2011 05:41 AM

My dealer cant fint this Module 255. Is there any partnumber I can search for? In paralell Im doing the same install on my E85:-) Much easier!

FernMD 11-20-2011 08:17 PM

I have just installed the M steering wheel with the paddle shifters and would love to get them to work. Is there any progress on getting these paddles to actually work? Now that the 2012 models are coming equiped with paddles for the sport option, there should be coding or modules available, right???

doni01 11-26-2011 04:04 PM

I am also interested, any progress guys ??

Mabuhay 12-23-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hosse (Post 826657)
Done! Really easy DIY!

Looks wounderfool!

Wieneren: sorry, but I disconnected the battery under the operation..

I got pictures of everything. PM me for any extra pics.

Before:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/3e10bd3f-2c10-0952.jpg

During:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/3e10bd3f-2c3b-d078.jpg

After:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/3e10bd3f-2c54-e334.jpg

Everything work, except the gearing + and -.. Any tips?

Hosse, when you removed the steering wheel, how do you know that you put it back on correctly? I.e. - since the DSC monitors steering wheel angle, what are the chances that you put the steering wheel on a few degrees off? Is it easy to make this mistake or are the differences in degrees position obvious enough that you won't put the steering wheel back on incorrectly?

I am asking since I had a defective heated steering wheel which got replaced. But now I noticed that the steering wheel is slightly turned left. The X5 tracks perfectly straight, however.

WWONG 12-23-2011 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mabuhay (Post 857550)
Hosse, when you removed the steering wheel, how do you know that you put it back on correctly? I.e. - since the DSC monitors steering wheel angle, what are the chances that you put the steering wheel on a few degrees off? Is it easy to make this mistake or are the differences in degrees position obvious enough that you won't put the steering wheel back on incorrectly?

I am asking since I had a defective heated steering wheel which got replaced. But now I noticed that the steering wheel is slightly turned left. The X5 tracks perfectly straight, however.

I installed my M-Sport wheel myself a month or two ago. You can tell it's aligned since there's a little line on the rod coming from the steering column and a line on the steering wheel itself. Just line them up and you're done. Same setup on my '01 E39. Impossible to misalign unless you completely ignore that. You can't see it on his pic since it's under the large bolt that holds it in place.

balx5 12-23-2011 06:45 PM

I've tried searching this thread and others but could not find a part number or place where people are purchasing the M-Steering wheel. Can someone help?

WWONG 12-23-2011 06:47 PM

I bought my M-sport steering wheels (E92, E70) from overseas sellers on eBay. They're new and from what I can tell, 100% genuine. They go from like $250-400 whereas at a dealer, expect paying $700-$1000. If you need to look up a PN, just go on realoem.com.

apw2607 12-23-2011 09:17 PM

This is the m steering wheel, not the m-sport package steering wheel. For one it has paddles, 3 color stitching and has heating button.

BTW, does the steering wheel heating work .. assume it does right ?

How about the other buttons on the right hand side? One should be a (M) button to bring up your m-drive settings. I assume on a regular car, this is still the mode toggle for the radio/cd. The button below should be climate air mode. These all work properly?

WWONG 12-23-2011 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apw2607 (Post 857608)
This is the m steering wheel, not the m-sport package steering wheel. For one it has paddles, 3 color stitching and has heating button.

BTW, does the steering wheel heating work .. assume it does right ?

How about the other buttons on the right hand side? One should be a (M) button to bring up your m-drive settings. I assume on a regular car, this is still the mode toggle for the radio/cd. The button below should be climate air mode. These all work properly?

Same thing except the threading on the M are colored red, blue, and violet whereas M-sport gets black threads. Paddles are on the M-sport only if you have a 50i.

BMW Full Garage 12-24-2011 10:50 PM

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Why not just get the OEM sport steering wheel with the peddle shifter? The only downside they don't have a heated steering wheel button! Other than that same wheel, same wires, bolt on. The best thing is that they go for about $300.

WWONG 12-24-2011 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW Full Garage (Post 857711)
Why not just get the OEM sport steering wheel with the peddle shifter? The only downside they don't have a heated steering wheel button! Other than that same wheel, same wires, bolt on. The best thing is that they go for about $300.

Two reasons.
1) The "leather" (probably leatherette) feels like Rubbermaid products
2) The M-sport is thicker. I have big hands and after driving for a few hours with the sports wheel, my hand gets crampy. Feels like less control of the wheel too.

BMW Full Garage 12-24-2011 11:41 PM

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This is the steering wheel i am waiting to get, but as of today is litle to expensive for a steering wheel ;)

m3the01 12-27-2011 12:35 AM

Does anyone know the size of Allen key or bolt it is to remove the wheel?

Likewise, explain the airbags removal if possible.

Thhanks

WWONG 12-27-2011 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3the01 (Post 857894)
Does anyone know the size of Allen key or bolt it is to remove the wheel?

Likewise, explain the airbags removal if possible.

Thhanks

Not an Allen key, you'll need an inverted socket. Not sure of the size but it's one of the standard ones.

The airbag just requires two pokes by the side holes hidden under the two slits of leather and it'll pop right out. You can then pull up on the green + black clips on the back of the airbag and the wires will detach.

singletrack 12-27-2011 04:30 PM

I'm going to poke around on the coding front when I get my x5 back home. Currently on vaca for the holidays and don't have my coding tools with me : )

Will certainly report back if I figure anything out...will also have IND take a look if I hit a wall.


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