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ekimv65 05-23-2011 10:36 AM

2 questions
 
1) I am looking at buying an 08 X5 and cant decide if I want or need the 4.8 or the 3.0 or the D. Any impressions from owner of these vehicles? For some background, I have an E53 4.8 and love it but dont use the power it has, nor do I pull anything,,,,.

2) What kind of mileage do the 3 different motors are owners seeing?

4.8 ?
3.0 ?
3.0D ?

I currently average 19.5 in my 06, never had a problem with it! Great car, I have a family member that has been nagging me to buy it from me, I just turned 100,800 miles and he will give me $20,000 for it. I think that sounds about right,,,,?

Thanks.

kimg9582 05-23-2011 03:35 PM

on my 2008 3.0, I get about 17 MPG locally, and about 22 MPG on highway. In my personal opinion, it has surprising amount of power/torque, and likely more reliable in the long run.

deutsch100 05-23-2011 04:01 PM

Diesel, 35d was available to the American market in 2009.

I had a 2007 3.0si, and while it was not slow, I always felt the E70 was too heavy for an inline 6 3.0 motor. The new 35i turbo is awesome though!

bigx5er 05-23-2011 06:47 PM

I owned a couple of the 3.0. Coming from the 4.8 I think you will be disappointed if you went to the 3.0. The 3.0 was fine and is a great engine, but nothing like the 4.8 or the newer 35i (which rocks).

rh71 05-23-2011 09:32 PM

Have the 3.0si. Wishing I had the 35i. Actually I wished that even before I bought the 3.0. Too bad the 35i came out 3 years too late. Day-to-day driving though the 3.0 is perfectly capable.

ekimv65 05-24-2011 01:50 PM

Cool, thanks for the replies. If you had the option to move up to the X35, would you do that over the 4.8?

blondboinsd 05-25-2011 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekimv65 (Post 825885)
Cool, thanks for the replies. If you had the option to move up to the X35, would you do that over the 4.8?

I LOVE the power of my 4.8 but hate the MPG so I would take the D personally if I could do it all over again

CarsRmyVICE 05-25-2011 12:30 AM

Well first off hats off to you for achieving nearly 20mpg in a 4.8:thumbup: That is quite impressive to a lead-footed a-hole like myself.

Why 2008? Given power is not important maybe a 2009 diesel is your best option? Good gas mileage and nice torque.

ekimv65 05-25-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarsRmyVICE (Post 825999)
Well first off hats off to you for achieving nearly 20mpg in a 4.8:thumbup: That is quite impressive to a lead-footed a-hole like myself.

Why 2008? Given power is not important maybe a 2009 diesel is your best option? Good gas mileage and nice torque.

Thanks, I was looking at an 08 that had what I liked, but, if people like the D, I think that I may look for one of these. What type of mileage do they get?

MAPC 05-25-2011 02:18 PM

D mileage
 
On my first weekend of ownership, I got 20.5 city, 27 highway. On my drive to work this AM (no highway/lots of stops and starts) I got 23.1.

Should only get better as it breaks in!

deutsch100 05-25-2011 02:24 PM

I average almost 20-21 mpg city driving. On the Freeway, with good traffic, speeds of 60-70mph, I get about 25 mpg usually

hardcrab 05-25-2011 02:35 PM

We bought an '07 last fall with the 4.8. We consistenty average 19.?? mpg. (we live rural- no city driving). My wife and I both enjoy driving this car more than any other we have owned- (everything from Jags, Merc's, other BMW's,...). I don't think it would be the same without the V8. It's just a blast to drive.

The way I look at it is it probably costs me less than $35 extra a month in fuel to drive the V8 vs. the 6 (we drive less than 10k per year). If $35/mo. extra is an issue to me, I have no business driving a ~40K used car- I should get a Kia instead.

Life's short- get what you want and don't sweat the small potatoes-

Edit- is there an "e" in potatoes? I can never remember.

BGM 05-25-2011 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcrab (Post 826079)
We bought an '07 last fall with the 4.8. We consistenty average 19.?? mpg. (we live rural- no city driving). My wife and I both enjoy driving this car more than any other we have owned- (everything from Jags, Merc's, other BMW's,...). I don't think it would be the same without the V8. It's just a blast to drive.

The way I look at it is it probably costs me less than $35 extra a month in fuel to drive the V8 vs. the 6 (we drive less than 10k per year). If $35/mo. extra is an issue to me, I have no business driving a ~40K used car- I should get a Kia instead.

Life's short- get what you want and don't sweat the small potatoes-

Edit- is there an "e" in potatoes? I can never remember.

+1. Though I would roll alternatively with a white Nissan Cube instead of a Kia ha.

ekimv65 05-26-2011 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcrab (Post 826079)
We bought an '07 last fall with the 4.8. We consistenty average 19.?? mpg. (we live rural- no city driving). My wife and I both enjoy driving this car more than any other we have owned- (everything from Jags, Merc's, other BMW's,...). I don't think it would be the same without the V8. It's just a blast to drive.

The way I look at it is it probably costs me less than $35 extra a month in fuel to drive the V8 vs. the 6 (we drive less than 10k per year). If $35/mo. extra is an issue to me, I have no business driving a ~40K used car- I should get a Kia instead.

Life's short- get what you want and don't sweat the small potatoes-

Edit- is there an "e" in potatoes? I can never remember.


For me its at 40000 miles per year, its bit more, but when you add it up, still not that much more.

I am buying through a dealer from an auction from BMW lease returns, the 09 X35d is around $36 to 42 depending on options etc, not a bad deal I don't think. Most have less then 20K miles on them and still in full warranty.

ekimv65 05-30-2011 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rh71 (Post 825769)
Have the 3.0si. Wishing I had the 35i. Actually I wished that even before I bought the 3.0. Too bad the 35i came out 3 years too late. Day-to-day driving though the 3.0 is perfectly capable.

Whats the difference is there 3.0 vs. 35i???

JCL 05-30-2011 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekimv65 (Post 826814)
Whats the difference is there 3.0 vs. 35i???

The 3.0 in the 2008 is called the N52 engine.
The 35i is a new engine, called the N54, still 3.0 litres, but:

+2 turbochargers
+ direct injection
+ horsepower
+ torque

Totally different driving experience, IMO.

jeremym 05-30-2011 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekimv65 (Post 825665)
I currently average 19.5 in my 06, never had a problem with it! Great car, I have a family member that has been nagging me to buy it from me, I just turned 100,800 miles and he will give me $20,000 for it. I think that sounds about right,,,,?

Thanks.

$20k for a X5 with over 100k on it? Or anywhere NEAR 100k? Take it while you can. However, since it's family, I'd feel bad. The thing isn't even worth $14k with anywhere near 100k on it. Don't pay attention to KBB values either. Any smart person that knows X's wouldn't go anywhere near a first-gen with over 50-60k miles on it. Even that's stretching it. Ask me how I know...

Also, 19.5 MPG combined in a 4.8is? Are you a magician?

jeremym 05-30-2011 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcrab (Post 826079)
We bought an '07 last fall with the 4.8. We consistenty average 19.?? mpg. (we live rural- no city driving).

Sorry, I don't believe you. I own the same truck you do. 2007 4.8. All software updates and I don't floor it everywhere I go. There's no way you get anywhere over 15 mpg driving off the highway in that truck. Period. Especially when EPA ratings are 15/21. You're telling me you're getting EPA estimated highway MPG just driving rural? Unless it's flat as a board with a tail wind everywhere you go....HA! Ok, David Blaine.

hardcrab 05-31-2011 09:00 AM

Believe what you want. I'm going by both the trip computer and manual check at fill ups. I havn't reset the mpg on the trip computer in several months- it presently reads 19.2. I have verified this at fill ups on numerous accasions.

Troll much?

jeremym 05-31-2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcrab (Post 826968)
Troll much?

Only when I'm in the mood. ;)

hardcrab 06-01-2011 09:05 AM

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/9689/img1306tf.jpg

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/3411/img1307l.jpg


Pictures just for you:nanana:

ekimv65 06-03-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeremym (Post 826938)
$20k for a X5 with over 100k on it? Or anywhere NEAR 100k? Take it while you can. However, since it's family, I'd feel bad. The thing isn't even worth $14k with anywhere near 100k on it. Don't pay attention to KBB values either. Any smart person that knows X's wouldn't go anywhere near a first-gen with over 50-60k miles on it. Even that's stretching it. Ask me how I know...

Also, 19.5 MPG combined in a 4.8is? Are you a magician?

I have had zero problems with mine... I maintain my vehicles very well, I had an 04 4.4 for 146,000 miles and no problems. The guy that bought it from me put on an additional 60K with no issues. :confused:

ekimv65 06-03-2011 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcrab (Post 827209)




Pictures just for you:nanana:

Thanks for the photos!

hardcrab 06-05-2011 02:03 PM

You're welcome- however they were directed at Jeremym--- to refute his smart assed, know-it-all comments. Why some people get off on going on an annonymous chat board and essentially calling someone a liar for no reason and no proof I'll never know. Takes all kinds I guess.

ard 06-05-2011 02:19 PM

^^^So you got 19.1 on a road trip AVERAGING 51.5mph.

That is NOT 'combined off highway mileage'. Yes, it is good mileage for a roadtrip. No that was not 50% city, stop-and-go, traffic lights.\


IMO

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hardcrab 06-05-2011 03:33 PM

We consistenty average 19.?? mpg. (we live rural- no city driving).

What I quoted above in post 12-

Not sure how else to say it. 18 miles from home to work. 2 stop signs. Roads are 45 and 55 mph, which = 50-65 mph driving. Never said city driving. NO road trip was part of this. I have not reset the trip computer for several months.

Then I'm pretty much called a liar (post 18), so I posted the pics. Next thing you know someone will post wanting to know what everyones income is. Oh, wait.......nevermind.

Sedoy 06-05-2011 08:53 PM

X5 35 uses newer N55 engine so:
single twin scroll turbocharger
DI
Valvetronic


Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL (Post 826849)
The 3.0 in the 2008 is called the N52 engine.
The 35i is a new engine, called the N54, still 3.0 litres, but:

+2 turbochargers
+ direct injection
+ horsepower
+ torque

Totally different driving experience, IMO.


barbja 06-05-2011 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarsRmyVICE (Post 825999)
Well first off hats off to you for achieving nearly 20mpg in a 4.8:thumbup: That is quite impressive to a lead-footed a-hole like myself.

Heh -- a man after my own heart. Guess I'm one of those myself 'cause I get 14-15 mixed out of an N55. :cool:

I got 17-19 mixed in a 35d. Slap me in a 5.0 and what'll I get? 10!?!

JCL 06-06-2011 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sedoy (Post 827972)
X5 35 uses newer N55 engine so:
single twin scroll turbocharger
DI
Valvetronic

Absolutely correct, I forgot it was an E70-specific question.

jeremym 06-06-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcrab (Post 827913)
You're welcome- however they were directed at Jeremym--- to refute his smart assed, know-it-all comments. Why some people get off on going on an annonymous chat board and essentially calling someone a liar for no reason and no proof I'll never know. Takes all kinds I guess.

I never called you a liar. I said I don't believe it. You proved me wrong with your photos and I didn't dispute it after that, did I? Are you seriously trying to start a pissing match with me, like TRAINER did?

What do you want...a cookie? Awesome, you proved me wrong. You expect me to reply back saying "OH MY GOD! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT! THOSE PICTURES ARE REAL?!?!?!?! I'M SENDING $100000000000000 yen to your HOUSEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Dude, you win. Weeeeeeeeee! Get over yourself and your 19mpg and just move on with life. I've moved on, a while ago, but you're still stuck in last-week time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hardcrab (Post 827921)
Next thing you know someone will post wanting to know what everyones income is. Oh, wait.......nevermind.

As I said, repeatedly, in that tread...if you don't want to participate, then don't. I never asked anyone to specifically post their income. The reason I set it up as a poll was strictly to keep it anonymous. What is your problem with that thread? Or do you just have a chip on your shoulder because I didn't acknowledge that you really get 19mpg in your X? You're like my girlfriend. Until I admit that I'm wrong and she's right, there is a grudge held for no reason. Life's too short for grudges. :dunno:

jeremym 06-06-2011 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ekimv65 (Post 827682)
I have had zero problems with mine... I maintain my vehicles very well, I had an 04 4.4 for 146,000 miles and no problems. The guy that bought it from me put on an additional 60K with no issues. :confused:

Not saying, nor did I mean to imply, that they "go bad" or anything of the sort after the range of miles I listed. Just saying that someone can find, sometimes, a cheaper and/or better X than one with higher mileage. I know there's someone that got over 200k out of his X and I believe he's still going strong.

Jesus Christmas, you really have to be specific here otherwise you get your ass chewed out. It's starting to become less enjoyable to come here and shoot the shit. :yikes:


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