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Paulk1 09-27-2011 07:29 AM

JB diesel performance tuner????
 
Opinions please....

PoopFaceKillah 09-27-2011 09:36 AM

I was considering the RocketChip for mine. I know the engineers at RC come highly recommended in the VW crowd. I don't know anything about JB diesel.

andy727 09-29-2011 01:30 AM

+1. I am very interested in this, as well ad any other tuning options.

Fwiw, I contacted Dinan the other day, they said that they are developing software for the 35d, but do not have a timeframe.

Andy

PoopFaceKillah 09-29-2011 06:09 AM

Yeah, I heard that through the rumor mill as well. The only issues that I see with Dinan stuff is the larger than life price tag for a less performance oriented part than aftermarket. The only saving grace is the the warranty if you meet all their stipulations.

jayjay_dee 09-29-2011 02:43 PM

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...t-35d-jbd.html

Paulk1 09-29-2011 10:06 PM

JJ
 
Jayjay, please keep me posted on how it works out. I am going to speak with Terry at JB tmrw and see what the deal is with these things. Looks almost too good. But we will see...

rwalker 09-29-2011 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paulk1 (Post 844960)
Opinions please....

Great stuff IMHO.

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...bd-review.html

I've got 24k miles on my X5, almost all of them with the JBD.

There are other options, but besides making a great product Terry and team are peerless when it comes to customer service.

-Rob

P.S. - I recommend buying a BavTech cable along with the JBD. Cheap insurance. And if you like to work on cars you can bleed BMW ABS braking systems without a trip to the dealer or a panic stop ;)

bimmerlex 09-30-2011 11:34 AM

JB is the way to go. Widely used on E90 (3-series) platform. Amazing power gain and customer service.

LeftCoastErik 01-24-2012 06:46 PM

Very happy with mine so far! Just wish someone would work out the electronic throttle delay. That is incredibly annoying..

diesaroo 01-24-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoastErik (Post 862686)
Very happy with mine so far! Just wish someone would work out the electronic throttle delay. That is incredibly annoying..

Throttle on a diesel? Where?

LeftCoastErik 01-24-2012 11:38 PM

Umm.in the software.

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bluetec 01-25-2012 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftCoastErik (Post 862686)
Very happy with mine so far! Just wish someone would work out the electronic throttle delay. That is incredibly annoying..

I'm very happy with mine as well, but I have not heard of (or experienced) an electronic throttle delay. Do you mean a lack of response caused by drive by wire, or are you referring to the tip-in? If you were an early adopter, there may be a newer firmware available. I'd heard they were shipping a small chip to upgrade early boxes for a nominal fee. Might want to check with BT if applicable.

Set at 100% from day one, I've had one limp mode experience at WOT during the first week. Simply restarted the engine and it was gone. Cleared codes using the BT cable, and no codes since then. Runs like a scalded a$$ ape.

LeftCoastErik 01-25-2012 11:30 AM

Its the electronic throttle. Better in DS.

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4MoJoe 01-25-2012 12:13 PM

Since this is plugged in under the hood, do you remove it when you take your car in for service? I would think if the BMW Service techs saw it they might not be too happy. I like the idea of this tho...

LeftCoastErik 01-25-2012 01:12 PM

I would recommend removing it. Mine is tucked under the engine cover, so they should not have any reason to spot it. But why take a chance? It only takes about 5 minutes to install/uninstall it.

diesaroo 01-25-2012 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoastErik (Post 862806)
Its the electronic throttle. Better in DS.

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Gasoline engines have throttle bodies since they operate at an air:fuel ratio of about 14.7:1. If the air intake in a spark ignition engine were not controlled by a TB, pinging and pre-detonation would occur.

Diesel engines have very large air:fuel ratios as high as 200:1 so there is no need to have a butterfly to control air intake...hence no throttle body to control in a diesel.

Whatever problem you may be describing may have to do with other aspects of the M57, but I don't believe it has anything to do with the "electronic throttle."

LeftCoastErik 01-25-2012 03:51 PM

OK, let me clarify, since you are making an assumption that I don't understand modern diesels. I never stated that the M57 has a throttle body or butterfly in the system (although some diesel pickups do..)
Throttle response in this vehicle starts at the electronic pedal (Throttle Position Sensor) this signal goes to the DME, the DME then decides on the timing and duration necessary from the injectors. The DME also sends a signal to the Fuel Control Actuator on the injection pump, this ramps rail pressure. The MAP and Rail Pressure sensors provide a feedback loop and the DME does all the magic.
In the pickup diesel world, where I make my living, we call the speed and ramp rate that the DME delivers "Torque Management". By modifying signals, we can change Torque Management, thereby making the truck more responsive. This is normally a function of timing and low load fueling.
I am assuming that the BMW DME has some sort of delay built into it to, perhaps, to save transmissions from being nailed with a ton of instant torque. I have found with other gas BMWs, with drive by wire systems, that this delay exists also. In those cases the motor opening the TB takes some time, but I imagine that he processing loop may have something to do with it also.

LeftCoastErik 01-25-2012 03:57 PM

Also, FYI, modern diesels run at somewhere in the 18 (low smoke/emissions) and -40 (cruise):1 ratio for AFR.

ZheHbKa 01-26-2012 03:04 PM

JB is a very good tune, stable and solid performance gain


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