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cetane 11-04-2011 01:57 PM

35d EGR valve?
 
Has anyone had it replaced? Did it fix the CEL or did they have to swap other parts?

boyce89976 11-04-2011 10:11 PM

See my thread "CEL came on this week". My issue caused several EGR faults but the real issue was the "charging air temp sensor" which feeds data to the EGR controller.

ard 11-05-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cetane (Post 850265)
the CEL

"the" cel? As there are 300 possible defects that can set a CEL, asking if replacing the EGR will fix any given CEL is pointless.

Having said that, I've not heard of CELs due to EGR valves on these diesels...

Without knowing your codes, it is impossible to venture a guess as to what the real cause might have been....

boyce89976 11-05-2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ard (Post 850363)
"the" cel? As there are 300 possible defects that can set a CEL, asking if replacing the EGR will fix any given CEL is pointless.

Having said that, I've not heard of CELs due to EGR valves on these diesels...

Without knowing your codes, it is impossible to venture a guess as to what the real cause might have been....


All of my EGR faults specifically said " will not cause warning lamp".

ard 11-05-2011 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by boyce89976 (Post 850372)
All of my EGR faults specifically said " will not cause warning lamp".

and I am of the opinion that the dealer is lying.

boyce89976 11-05-2011 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ard (Post 850405)
and I am of the opinion that the dealer is lying.

With all due respect, I was standing shoulder to shoulder with the tech when the faults came up during the diagnosis, and watched him print them. Every EGR fault specifically said in the first line of the printout that it would not cause a warning lamp.

ard 11-05-2011 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boyce89976 (Post 850422)
With all due respect, I was standing shoulder to shoulder with the tech when the faults came up during the diagnosis, and watched him print them. Every EGR fault specifically said in the first line of the printout that it would not cause a warning lamp.

With all due respect, were you pulling codes or were you running diagnostics? Two different things.

You do a disservice telling people "EGR Codes do not set CELs" if in fact you were running a diagnostic test and not pulling 'already set EGR faults'...

A CEL is set by a code, period. You cannot have a CEL come on without AT LEAST ONE underlying code.

In your other thread, your mechanic said there were no codes for your CEL, correct? That is why I said he is lying. He may have erased the existing (historical) codes, then run the diagnostics- which showed no 'present' codes.

Again- 'set codes in the OBD' versus 'BMW diagnostics'- different things

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cetane 11-05-2011 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ard (Post 850363)
"the" cel? As there are 300 possible defects that can set a CEL, asking if replacing the EGR will fix any given CEL is pointless.

Having said that, I've not heard of CELs due to EGR valves on these diesels...

Without knowing your codes, it is impossible to venture a guess as to what the real cause might have been....

Sorry I didn't have all the details when I started this thread. Here is what is causing the CEL:

4C52: Charge-air temperature sensor, plausibility. Ratio of calculated to measured air mass too high.
3FF0: Air-mass flow sensor. Charge-air temperature not plausible in rel. to remaining temperature signals.
4B82: Exhaust-gas recirculation-rate control, control deviation. Exhaust-gas recirculation rate too low/positive control deviation.


Dealer wants to replace the temp sensor and the EGR valve. However the EGR valve is not in stock and they have to ship it in from Germany. Also they said the MAF sensor might be bad. I'm not sure how two or three things could possibly go bad at the same time. :dunno:

boyce89976 11-05-2011 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cetane (Post 850461)
Sorry I didn't have all the details when I started this thread. Here is what is causing the CEL:

4C52: Charge-air temperature sensor, plausibility. Ratio of calculated to measured air mass too high.
3FF0: Air-mass flow sensor. Charge-air temperature not plausible in rel. to remaining temperature signals.
4B82: Exhaust-gas recirculation-rate control, control deviation. Exhaust-gas recirculation rate too low/positive control deviation.


Dealer wants to replace the temp sensor and the EGR valve. However the EGR valve is not in stock and they have to ship it in from Germany. Also they said the MAF sensor might be bad. I'm not sure how two or three things could possibly go bad at the same time. :dunno:

Did any of the codes include the words "permanent error"?

cetane 11-05-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by boyce89976 (Post 850462)
Did any of the codes include the words "permanent error"?

I don't think so. All three say "Fault currently not present"


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