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pokemon 11-18-2011 01:58 AM

Run Flat Tires
 
I am looking to buy new summer tires for my '08 3.0i w/sport pkg in Spring, would like to know which RFT has the best all around performance( ride, control, wear etc); Bridgestone, Continental, Michelin or Pirelli.

grudge 11-18-2011 02:50 AM

check out and see if you like the nitto nt-05's. they're not run flats but cheaper alternative than some on your list and a really good performance tire.

SCardamon 11-18-2011 07:06 AM

Interesting, I saw "Run Flat Tires" in the title and my mind completed the phrase with "suck" :)

Go for non runflats, better for your suspension, ride, and chicks dig them. Everything is true except for that last part.

cravin 11-18-2011 08:32 AM

Looks like some of you don't realize that you need RFTs on X5s with third row since there is no spare.

motordavid 11-18-2011 09:20 AM

The RFT vs non-RFT debate has literally pages of threads on the topic...
but, 'no spare' is not the deciding factor on whether to run non-RFTs or not, imo.

Price 11-18-2011 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid (Post 852315)
but, 'no spare' is not the deciding factor on whether to run non-RFTs or not, imo.

If you have 3rd row and no space for a spare - yes it is.

grudge 11-18-2011 11:18 AM

There's always AAA or any other similar services if you choose to pass on run flats.

cravin 11-18-2011 12:37 PM

I don't happen to have a whole day to blow sitting in the middle of nowhere waiting for a tow truck. You folks make it sound like RFTs make the truck ride like you're on a snowmobile. RFTs are fine and definitely serve a purpose.

4MoJoe 11-18-2011 12:38 PM

We bought the BMW mobility kit for our 3 series when we ditched the run flats. Plus we have road side assistance with our auto insurance as well. Knock on wood, but in 5 years no problems yet.

For me, the run flats were the first thing to go on my X5. I looked specifically for an X5 with the spare tire (and got it) but honestly if I didn't have it I'd still have dumped the RFT's.

I also got an email today from getbmwparts.com for the OEM BMW E70/71 X5 & X6 Series Emergency Wheel/Tire Set - $335. I know hauling it around is a pain, maybe needed for longer trips out of town, but it's an option to consider.

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SCardamon 11-18-2011 02:08 PM

Yep, had a 328i vert, got rid of the run-craps and tossed some fixaflat in the trunk, if that did not work it was roadside assistance time!

So to the third row drivers I say go for it, be risky with a flat situation and not with your suspension.

To those who think RFTs are OK and like them, super.

ard 11-18-2011 02:25 PM

I have an M5- with the mobility kit.

After getting stranded 110 miles from home for 2 days, I swore never again. I now carry a full size front wheel in the trunk, jack, lug wrench. It has saved me 4 times. What would be a many hour, to overnight delay (with potentially needing to buy an new unmnatched tire at retail) is now a 20 minute pause.

That being said, my 2010 and 2012 has 255/50-19 Michelins and seems to ride just fine. But I have the spare too...

kakalika 11-18-2011 04:08 PM

Will be tossing my run flats immediately after winter.

motordavid 11-18-2011 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Price (Post 852321)
If you have 3rd row and no space for a spare - yes it is.

I read your post with excellent reading comprehension, the first time; my point is one does not have to use RFTs, with no spare, but one may choose to do so.

Not arguing the merits of RFTs vs non-RFTs in terms of handling, etc., but I run our Vette with non-RFTs. It's a choice I make and I don't give it a 2nd thought, even on a 2 month, 13,000 mile road trip, we made this past summer, I did not wring my hands. You can choose RFTs or not, regardless of your "no space". It is up to each, to decide...

brian5 11-18-2011 05:29 PM

Just going to add my opinion here as I see so many negative comments on RFTs.

I have RFTs on summer and winter wheels. They don't bother me at all and I see no reason to change.

cravin 11-18-2011 05:35 PM

As mentioned, it's all a personal decision. I, personally, would still get RFTs even if they sounded like huge tread tires on a monster truck. Just for the piece of mind that my wife doesn't need to get out of the truck on a highway with two boys in the back seat is worth the drawbacks alone.

brian5 11-18-2011 05:41 PM

@ pokemon,

Do you have many RFT staggered tire choices for summer? I thought it was only the O.E. "Dunlop SP Sport Maxx DSST" and the "Bridgestone Dueler H/P Sport"? I'd be interested in hearing if you find out about any others.

If I could choose a tire, it would be the Michelin Latitude Diamaris but I don't think that they have RFT options.

enjoytheride 11-19-2011 10:04 PM

Purchased and collected new 35d Mar 2010 fitted with 20" Dunlop RFT 275 front 315 rear. At 26700 km (approx 17,000 ml) rear tyres suffered from the well documented "inner" wear nearly to wire and fronts nearly at tread bars, all 4 tyres replaced with Bridgestone RFT. This is when I started to research what I considered to be premature wear. Already aware that my knowledge of the vehicle was greater than service consultant. (They had performed a wheel alignment at the 15,000 km service). Speak with any tyre retail outlet and no opinion will be the same. Rear tyres made it to 59,200 km (a slight improvement) and have been replaced with local Goodyear shop doing wheel align after I gave them info from this site. This day now at 67,000 km (covered about 8,000 km) and they look good. Fronts still going and look to have about 10,000 km left. Driving habits = 90% country running @ 110 kph. No spirited driving but as any x5 owner will know u don't have to slow down for corners! Both Dunlop and Bridgstones are noisy at town speeds and having sorted the wheel align debacle bridgstones have better mileage. RFT?? we travel 200 km each way twice a week between country towns with no repair facility let alone town bigger than population 20 in between. Haven't had a flat yet but would not like to be on the side of a roadway (only one lane each way with dirt verg) either attempting to change or wait for repair with multiple trucks caravans you name it wizzing past.......hourses for courses!

Daka 11-21-2011 08:07 AM

One more opinion.
Looks like I will be keeping my 06 3.0 X5, and will be driving it till BMW makes room for a spare and the option of NON RUN FLATS. So, I guess I'll see 500,000 miles or more.
BMW's other DIM BULB IDEA is NO DIPSTICK...sorry BMW you have screwed up BIG TIME

enjoytheride 11-22-2011 03:26 AM

Daka, better restore some of your faith, the five seater has a skinny spare and I found the dipstick 'hidden' under there 'don't touch unless you are mechanic' area of the under bonnet. Eg where the brake master cylinder is.

Daka 11-22-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjoytheride (Post 852900)
Daka, better restore some of your faith, the five seater has a skinny spare and I found the dipstick 'hidden' under there 'don't touch unless you are mechanic' area of the under bonnet. Eg where the brake master cylinder is.

Well, good to know...it only tells me that the sales people don't have a clue..When I asked they "checked with the manager" and said no spare available, ( I didn't say 2 or 3 seat) and Oh No, you dont need a dipstick, it has a warning light...

pokemon 11-22-2011 03:37 PM

Where is engine oil dip stick located for the 3.0 engine and do you have the picture?

enjoytheride 11-23-2011 09:52 PM

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Just went to double check is quite easy to see once you know where you are looking. Be aware this is for a right hand drive vehicle so there is a possibility dip stick is located on opposite side to this. Dip stick is located on RHS of engine (as you are facing it) between the air intake and the plastic air intake cover. Easier to access if you remove top plastic engine cover.

1. Grip both sides at the front corners and lift (you will hear click as cover comes free)

2. Repeat in the centre. Gip both side in the centre and lift.....

3. Once these are free pull the cover towards you and the rear clips will release.

Dip stick is then easily removed. (you will notice it is black so that it is hard to see not like other vehicles where they bright yellow which will incourage you to check the oil! A good thing to know so that you can check that the stealers have changed the oil. Photo's attached.

pokemon 11-24-2011 03:49 PM

It is not the engine for '08 E70 with the 3.0 inline six. Thanks anyway.


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