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nitrorocket 11-24-2011 12:05 PM

Track times E53 vs E70???
 
Trying to find out which handles better on the track, handling wise. Does an E70 handle better then my E53 4.8is??

Richard in NC 11-24-2011 12:18 PM

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I have no frame of reference for the E53 but hear it "feels" better, especially the 4.8is, but compared to the X5M, X6M I don't know.
What I can tell you is the X5 50i with MSport and Adaptive suspension and active steering is quite impressive. I've not been on track with it, but on the twistiest of roads, it can hang with the best, including M3s, etc. I had to push it a bit harder than them but I could stay with them when desired.
It feels soft and a bit bouncy in normal mode but firms up nicely in sport. There is a nice fairly neutral turn in, almost no body roll, nice balance to really feel the edge of grip, and the ability to power out of a turn an push the back end out a bit. I couldn't ask for more.

This picture is while really pushing it on the Tail of the Dragon with an E92 M3 on my tail. And yes he was having to work it hard to keep up.

nitrorocket 11-24-2011 12:38 PM

What years had the adaptive suspension like yours??

ard 11-25-2011 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by nitrorocket (Post 853307)
What years had the adaptive suspension like yours??

It was always an option.

Up to 2009 it was part of the "Sport Package"... beginning 2010 it was stand alone, "Adaptive Drive: code 2VA.

4.8is mike 11-30-2011 11:44 PM

4.8is
skidpad 0.83g
Speed thru slalom 63.3mph



4.8i
0.82g skid pad
slalom at 62.9 mph.



X5 M
Skid pad 0.91g
Slalom 63.5 mph

ard 12-01-2011 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 4.8is mike (Post 854281)
4.8is
skidpad 0.83g
Speed thru slalom 63.3mph



4.8i
0.82g skid pad
slalom at 62.9 mph.



X5 M
Skid pad 0.91g
Slalom 63.5 mph

Any idea which had AD (other than the M)??? I guess they'd hate to test a 4.8i with AD and have it do better than the M....:confused:

eschantra 12-04-2011 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ard (Post 854293)
Any idea which had AD (other than the M)??? I guess they'd hate to test a 4.8i with AD and have it do better than the M....:confused:

2008 BMW X5 4.8i: Track Testing (Video Added)

According to Edmunds, those numbers were posted by a 4.8i without sport package. The 20s grip very well, I'm guessing much better numbers for those so equipped, especially on the skidpad. Too bad the videos don't work anymore.

Richard in NC 12-04-2011 10:51 AM

This is the only major magazine full test I know of for the 2011+ X5.
Acura MDX vs. Audi Q7 3.0T, BMW X5 xDrive35i, Land Rover LR4 HSE, Lexus GX460 - Comparison Tests
It blows away the competion braking, performance, and handling.
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...exus-gx460.pdf

.89 Gs with the 20s! But I can't tell if it had AD.

ard 12-04-2011 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard in NC (Post 854726)
This is the only major magazine full test I know of for the 2011+ X5.
Acura MDX vs. Audi Q7 3.0T, BMW X5 xDrive35i, Land Rover LR4 HSE, Lexus GX460 - Comparison Tests
It blows away the competion braking, performance, and handling.
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...exus-gx460.pdf

.89 Gs with the 20s! But I can't tell if it had AD.


Looks like a "sport" button on the interior shot. That 'black/white' interior looks horrific, IMO. Someone cut up a penguin pelt....

sunny5280 12-04-2011 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ard (Post 854735)
Looks like a "sport" button on the interior shot. That 'black/white' interior looks horrific, IMO. Someone cut up a penguin pelt....

I love the Oyster color combination.

pacent 12-05-2011 03:27 PM

BMW sponsored a track day, where potential M3 buyers were all given a chance to drive flat out on an enclosed track at the Autobahn Country Club, in Joliet, IL, to get a feel for how the cars perform. It was a lead follow event, with instructors driving X5Ms and X6Ms, and regular folks following in M3s. When asked about how strange it was having SUV's leading, the pro drivers said, these M3's, no matter how good of a driver you are, will not be able to pass the X5Ms and X6Ms on this track.

Sterling 4.4 12-07-2011 02:03 AM

Were these e30 m3's on a track with a lot of straights? The X5M is a pig compared to most any M3 and I would think the e46 or e90 wouldn't have a problem out doing it on a track in the corners.

I used to have an m6 and on the straights, nothing could touch it, but it wouldn't turn like a smaller lighter car.

Syndicate 12-07-2011 02:44 AM

Fill your boots...

Autozeitung test track lap records - FastestLaps.com

X6M fastest SAV from BMW. Next inline is the Xdrive 40d. I didn't see the X5M on here.

Cheers,

LeMansX5 12-07-2011 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pacent (Post 854892)
BMW sponsored a track day, where potential M3 buyers were all given a chance to drive flat out on an enclosed track at the Autobahn Country Club, in Joliet, IL, to get a feel for how the cars perform. It was a lead follow event, with instructors driving X5Ms and X6Ms, and regular folks following in M3s. When asked about how strange it was having SUV's leading, the pro drivers said, these M3's, no matter how good of a driver you are, will not be able to pass the X5Ms and X6Ms on this track.

I was there. Did you do the track inside of X5M? Because I did.

Pic from event.


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