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monto 03-22-2012 09:16 PM

Went through carwash while in park?!?!
 
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I can't believe I have to post this and I am more than pissed off at myself. Of all days something had to happen at the exact moment my 2008 3.0si hit 100,000 miles. It was complete coincidence that I pulled into the gas station at exactly 100k miles and thought I would honor the achievement by running it through the wash; I even spent the extra $2.50 for wheel cleaner. It's a conveyor car wash where the left wheels are pushed along by the rolling stopper which in turn spins the right side. I didn't notice until half way through, approx. 50 feet, that the gear lever was in park. I quickly pressed the break pedal which stopped the car, the rolling stopper subsequently just rolled under the rear tire and put it in neutral. Prior to noticing I was in park there was no awkward motion or jerkiness that one might intuitively expect. The car seemed to pull out of the wash fine and I immediately stopped to do a walk around and switch in and out of park and drive a few times; nothing out of the ordinary. After cursing myself in my car for the next few minutes I drove the 5 miles home, which included about 4 miles on the highway and didn't experience anything unusual. Should I be worried or take the car to be looked at? Is there an explanation or fail safe mechanism that prevents anything negative happening?

Thanks for reading and for any info you can share.

Cheers,
monto

monto 03-22-2012 09:24 PM

The warning light was on since I was on fumes ;-)

jeremym 03-22-2012 10:58 PM

Depends. Do you have monster truck tires and/or desert tires on or just regular RFT's or equivalent? Obviously you NEVER want to do that, as it can put unneeded stress on the drive line and/or transmission. However, the slots the wheels go into in those car washes were probably so loaded up with soap and water, you just slipped right along the entire time.

I do not claim to be an expert, but I can't imagine much damage (if any) was done.

And holy crap! 100k miles on a 2008? I am about to hit 49k on my 2007 and every time I get in to drive, I pray to the God I don't believe in that nothing breaks.

monto 03-23-2012 08:43 AM

I think you're right. I have regular all season tires and as a result of getting the tire shine all 4 wheels were thoroughly sprayed down which probably helped them slide along. It probably also helped that the tires tread is nearing the bars as they have 55,000 miles on them.

I've slowed down the pace of the mileage in the last 6 months but it only took my 3 years and 4 months to get to 100,000.

Thanks for your reply,
monto

blue dragon 03-23-2012 09:03 AM

wow! 100k!<shocked>
What problems did you run into post warranty?

monto 03-23-2012 09:09 AM

I had to have the transmission replaced at 95,000 miles. Thankfully my dealer paid half out of good will and I now have a new transmission with 2 year unlimited mile warranty. Nothing major other than that.

blue dragon 03-23-2012 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by monto (Post 871487)
I had to have the transmission replaced at 95,000 miles. Thankfully my dealer paid half out of good will and I now have a new transmission with 2 year unlimited mile warranty. Nothing major other than that.

Thats not good! Thats definitely a major failure.

jeremym 03-23-2012 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by blue dragon (Post 871490)
Thats not good! Thats definitely a major failure.

Sure is, but what can ya do? He is lucky that's ALL that failed.

monto 03-23-2012 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jeremym (Post 871497)
Sure is, but what can ya do? He is lucky that's ALL that failed.

My sentiments exactly. The fact that I only had to pay 50% made it much easier to stomach.

ard 03-23-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by monto (Post 871487)
I had to have the transmission replaced at 95,000 miles. Thankfully my dealer paid half out of good will and I now have a new transmission with 2 year unlimited mile warranty. Nothing major other than that.


Proof that the 100k Transmission Fluid change interval is actually "lifetime" fill....:cool:

fast4d 03-23-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by monto (Post 871518)
My sentiments exactly. The fact that I only had to pay 50% made it much easier to stomach.

how much is 50% of a remanned transmission?

for future reference....

monto 03-23-2012 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fast4d (Post 871534)
how much is 50% of a remanned transmission?

for future reference....

$3,300 installed.

rh71 03-23-2012 03:59 PM

My 1995 SUV had a remanufactured tranny done in '09 and a year or two later it acted up again with a tranny code. Re-used parts were in there. But it was basically out of cycle since it was a '95. So I spent $2700 for less than 2 years of service (not one of my better decisions as it turns out).

So... how much is a brand NEW transmission? Do they use NEW parts in a remanufactured tranny if it's still in cycle (rebuild with new parts)? I don't think I'd do re-manufactured again if not after that experience.

ORRRR.. maybe that'd be a good time to ask that they drop the 8-speed LCI tranny in there. :D

ard 03-23-2012 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by rh71 (Post 871560)
My 1995 SUV had a remanufactured tranny done in '09 and a year or two later it acted up again with a tranny code. Re-used parts were in there. But it was basically out of cycle since it was a '95. So I spent $2700 for less than 2 years of service (not one of my better decisions as it turns out).

So... how much is a brand NEW transmission? Do they use NEW parts in a remanufactured tranny if it's still in cycle (rebuild with new parts)? I don't think I'd do re-manufactured again if not after that experience.

ORRRR.. maybe that'd be a good time to ask that they drop the 8-speed LCI tranny in there. :D

In my book:

New>>remanufactured>>rebuilt>>used

Remanned, at a real "remanned by the Manufacturer that did the new build" should be a step up from rebuilt. The theory is this:

Remanned has access to every new upgrade, every spec; They can toss out a case or a part if it shows wear, or otherwise has an issue- if they need something new that is not in the 'rebuild kit' they can get it. They have factory tools, factory test benches and dynos, etc, etc.

A rebuilt is 'your parts with a new set of defined wear parts and gaskets'. The shop has no way to really inspect, and even then if something is wrong they then need to say "Ooops, can't rebuild it' and someone eats all the labor to that point. They know it will prolly make it to 12m/12k, so they usually dont look hard.

I will only buy a reman from the manuf. that built it.

I think BMW is using only remanned for warranty. i only saw Rmfd on the parts list...

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monto 03-23-2012 07:16 PM

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BMW remanufactured is what was installed based on my invoice. From realoem.com;

blondboinsd 03-24-2012 01:27 AM

YIKES! Any idea why it failed? I'm right behind you at 80k. The tranny is the only thing that scares me...

monto 03-24-2012 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd (Post 871624)
YIKES! Any idea why it failed? I'm right behind you at 80k. The tranny is the only thing that scares me...

No idea why it failed. See my entire ordeal explained here http://www.xoutpost.com/showthread.php?t=82596

In retrospect and after driving with the new transmission there were definitely warning signs that probably slowly worsened over time but since I didn't have any perspective I didn't notice. For example when starting from a stop, at a light for example, you could feel the transmission engage with a jerk ever so slightly which worsened over time. A similar things would happen when down shifting at certain speeds. Again, at the time I didn't really notice but now that the transmission is silky smooth I'm realizing there were signs; if that makes sense.


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