another "good deal" or not thread
 

So I've finally decided to let my 4.6is go and upgrade to something newer with the 3rd row. the current offer I've found is:

2011 X5 3.5i Premium
Space Gray
Black Nevada Leather
10K miles

Pkgs:

Convenience
Technology
Cold Weather
Premium Sound
Comfort Access
Roof Rails
Nav
Combox Controller (not sure what this is)
Sat Radio
Running Boards
Panoramic roof
19" Wheels

Price: $53,800

Before you start telling me to look at new 2012s, I have to buy slightly used in order to bring it back to Canada. Thoughts?

thx

Tell them to toss in a BMW Platinum Warranty...but make sure it will be honored in Canada.

That looks to be about a 3500 package and so far I can't find anything saying it will be honored in Canada. I'll have to call bmwca to find out. And if they won't throw it in, is it a reasonable price?

Found another one, specs as follows:
12895 Miles

2011 X5 3.5i Premium
Black
Black Nevada Leather
12985K miles

Pkgs:
3rd row seating
Convenience
Technology
Cold Weather
Premium Sound
Comfort Access
Roof Rails
Nav
Combox Controller (not sure what this is)
Sat Radio
Running Boards
Panoramic roof
19" Wheels
HUD


Says MSRP was 65K and change
Looks like invoice is 59540 ( from carquotes)
Plus $750 destination
plus $250 advertising

they're asking 56,988

What say you?

Sounds like a nice car, Doc...(and, so did the first one), but black in
Alberta winters, eh?!

No clue on how good either deal is; just wanted to post/chime in.
GL, mD

Thanks mD! The family expanded and while I should be looking at a minivan I can't bring myself to do it. Been out of touch with the whole pricing scheme for some time now so I'm looking to the savvy young guys for advice :D

the deals suck.

But I am guessing you have some need to buy used and import??? Makes it hard to evaluate

well the same vehicle in Canada is 26K more so I'm trying to find a decent deal. Can buy new unless the dealer is willing to go with MSO to get title first.

thx

You know that 3rd row is pretty much useless don't you?

I used mine, for the first time in over a year, this past weekend. My normal size 13 year-old found it so uncomfortable because there was not enough leg room. I had to put the middle rows seats all the way forward -- which resulted in complaints from 3 teenage boys. So I had 4 unhappy kids in the car...

yup. but right now my oldest is 5, so I can get a few years out of it...

any cars for sale here that would work? like the guy that hates his diesel??

haven't seen any in the for sale forum. If you say it's a bad deal at that price, what would a fair price/offer be? You see, in Canada, building a 2012 with similar options comes in at $90K. Used 2011s here don't have nearly the options (for some reason almost all of them have the M package but that's about it) and those that are for sale are 60-70K with 40K Kms (24K miles) on them. So buying cross border opens up the choices while allowing to save a bit. I wish I could build an 2012 in the US, use incentives and bring it back, but I can't. BMWNA rules.

Dr.,

Can you pm where you were quoted 3500 for the platinum extended warranty by BMW?

Are you asking us if it is a good deal HERE or a good deal in Canada?

That's the problem- your particular situation makes OUR opinions useless.

You might explore some options for buying a new car in the usa. F 'bmw rules'...remember, they are BMWs rules and apply to dealers- NOT YOU.

I would imagine there are states that would allow you to buy a car without use tax...or states where someone can buy and then immediately sell a car (and not "use" it) and thereby avoid a use tax... the dealer types here go nuts with this kind of talk, but YOU just need to avoid any legal mistep- not a BMW misstep.

A

While you can try and force BMWNA's hand, getting your warranty honoured at a BMW dealer in Canada is at their discretion, so I don't think it is worth calling their bluff on a nearly new vehicle that is likely to require attention during the warranty period. You will already be giving up the prepaid maintenance, but the warranty is worth something IMO.

Just buy a used one.

Agreed JCL. Which is why I'm looking at Xs with some miles on them.

Ard you're correct in asking whether it's a good deal from a US or a Canadian perspective. From a Canadian perspective if I bought at their asking price it wold still be a significant savings over a more local purchase. However, knowing that there should be room for negotiation on the price (from a US perspective) i'm asking "what is a fair offer on said vehicle"?

You should be able to get a 2011 with 10,000 miles or so now for high $40's with the options that you are looking for. I purchased a 2011 x5d last year from the US (New York) and a X3(New Jersey) and the X5 was in the ballpark of $53,500 with 8200 miles. (6 month lease turn in). No issues bringing back and have been to the local dealer a few times for maintance and one warranty issue with no problems. I wouldnt be surprised if you could get a 2012 now for mid $50's or so with the options you want.

Thanks jamonge for the info. I have searched for 12s with the same options but so far come up empty handed. However, it gives me some idea of what to offer on the vehicle. I'll start at 48 and see where they go.

Incidentally, I used to live in Quispamsis :)

well...they laughed at my offer and dropped their price by $2k....

can't u use a front man / dealership to build and buy from factory then resell it to you?

You can buy new as a Canadian and import it, you just need to find the right dealer to sell it to you - lol! Also, BMW in Canada will need to "bless it" by performing some upgrades if you want to keep your warranty intact. Estimate a $4 to $5K.

have you found such a dealer? The blessing can be done in many ways, without the $4-$5K hit...

Precisely

We bought a 9 month old '11 35d in Feb of '12. Excellent/as new condition. 11k miles. Options pretty close to how I would have ordered. Has 3rd row, sport, 20's but not the tech type options. I shopped daily via Autotempest. Paid a bit under $50k. Sticker was about 64k.

How about this one? Cars for Sale: 2011 BMW X5 xDrive35i in Van Nuys, CA 91401: Sport Utility Details - 316254060 - AutoTrader.com

Is this a good deal?
2011 m sport package 50i wht/bieg
Optional Features: Premium Sound Package, Park Distance Control, M Sport Package, Rear Climate Package, Engine Description: 4.4l V8 32v Gdi DOHC Twin Turbo, Fuel Type: Gas, Cam Type: Dual Overhead Cam, Fuel Induction: Direct Gasoline Injection, Aspiration: Twin Turbocharged, MPG Automatic City: 14, MPG Automatic Highway: 20, Transmission: 8-Speed Automatic, Drive Train Type: AWD, 4WD Type : Full-Time, Descent Control, Driven Wheels: All-Wheel Drive, Locking Hubs: Permanent, Wheels Rims: Aluminum, Independent Suspension: Independent, Stabilizer Bar: Front And Rear, Clock, External Temp, Low Fuel Level, Front Wipers: Variable Intermittent, Rear Defogger, Rear Qtr Windows: Power, Rear Wiper: Variable Intermittent, Sunroof: Express Open/Close, Audio System: Am/Fm/Hd/Satellite-Capable, Speakers: 10, Multimedia CD Location: Single In-Dash Mounted, Antenna Type: Window Grid, Drivers Height: Power, Drivers Power: 8, Passenger Height: Power, Passenger Power: 8, Seating Capacity: 5, Front Seat Type: Bucket, Upholstery: Leather, Center Armrest, Folding: 60-40, Heat Ducts, Windows: Power, Steering Power: Hydraulic Power-Assist, Steering Adjustment: Power Tilting And Telescoping, Steering Wheel Control: HVAC Audio, Mirrors: Power Remote, Reverse Tilt Mirror, Remote Mirrors: Power Remote, Power Door Locks: Power With 2 Stage Unlock, Cupholders, Door Pockets, Power Outlets: 3, Remote Trunk Release: Power, Retained Accessory Power, Memory Features: Driver, Memory Features Number Of Drivers: 2, Memory Features, Air Conditioning: Automatic, Air Filtration, Trunk Lights, Center Console Trim: Genuine Wood, Dash Trim: Genuine Wood/Metal-Look, Door Trim: Genuine Wood/Metal-Look, Reading Lights: Front, Rearview Mirror: Day-Night, Shift Knob: Leather/Metal-Look, Steering Wheel Trim: Leather, Vanity Mirrors: Driver And Passenger, Vinyl Floor Covering: Carpet, Bumpers: Body-Colored, Door Reinforceme

754 total mi.
55000.00

It has 754 miles on it and only $55K ? That can't be right.

Yup, only 754

Ok found another:

MY12 3.5i 5k miles
Model 12xg (does that mean premium??)
Tech okg
Conv pkg
Cold weather pkg
Active seat pkg
Premium sound pkg
3rd row
Active cruise
BMW apps
MSRP:69575

$58k

Opinions?

It must be at auction or something else wrong. Where is the car being sold from ? Looking at cars.com there are only 7 '11 50i's in the whole country under $60K and those are stripped down ones.

stripped down? what do you mean?

New car? In service date?

So an MSRP of 69500 would mean a 'dealer cost' (ie price to tem after all incentives) of 60? A new price of $61? So they are taking off 3k for 5000 miles.

Actually not bad.

Do keep in mind that the poor sap that bought it new for 61k probably got 49k in trade now that he got in trouble or the wife hated the whatever...

Will they CPO it for that price??? BIG benefit (if it is good in Canada...)

A

funny you mention CPO. I did ask that and no they won't. So I'm trying to formulate a decent offer. It doesn't have the rims or running boards I wanted, and I did want black interior. I can live with beige, throw the running boards on, and watch for a deal on 214s. that said, what's a reasonable offer? My assumption is they won't move much.


edit: they say they'll CPO it for 59K...

I'll have to find out if CPO will be valid in Canada.

edit2: CPO not valid in Canada.

That CPO is worth $3500 to you if you own it from 50-100k miles...a "BMW Gold" plan would cost that much. Now, if you are a DIYer and/or married to a BMW mechanic, not a big deal...but odds are you WILL have a few visits and will break even. In my mind they are saying 57, with 2k their cost for the CPO.

I'd say you are close enough to finanilze this- just confirm the CPO in canada. (Try not to ask the dealer, read the CPO documents- google) Given your limited options in CA, the extra few $$ you might be leaving on the table isn't material

A

I checked ad CPO does not carry over to Canada. So the warranty option is no good for me.

well they dropped to 56K and will have running boards installed so I took it. Now I just have to find the rims. thx for all the advice.


David

Yup new, in service date meaning what? Where do I find that date?
M spt pkg
Pre sound pkg
Rear climate pkg

No nav, no tech, no comfort, no Pre pkg, no cold pkg, I wonder if the windows go down

The deal of the century!
 

I bought this 2011 x5 m sport pkg from vista BMW for $55,000.00 today, it gets delivered in 7 days. I find it easier to strike ridiculous deals at the dealer. This x5 listed for 70,000.00 about 9 months ago. Incredible deal for me!:D

Congrats on the purchase. That sounds about right on the price since you mentioned no Tech or Premium package---probably a little lower than what most dealers would sell it at (upper $50Ks-$60K I bet). Mine was 2 years old a lease return with only 15K miles, MSRP new $75K and I bought it for $48K. Post pics once you get it.

i already received the matte black grilles from jlevi

my almost brand new 2011 m spt pkg
 

So I take delivery at the end of the week on my new truck.
check out the pics.
I bought it from Vista BMW Pompano Beach FL. for $55,000.00 out the door, pretty sweet huh?
Ill video tape the arrival on the auto transport truck as is rolls up then post.

Willing to trade wheels and tires for a set of style 299 wheels and tires.

M Sport Package
Rear Climate Package
Premium Sound Package
Park Distance Control
Panoramic Moon Roof

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still looking for style 299

who gave you such a good deal there ?

they have a 2011 demo never titled msrp 82k, they wont do anything under 70k...

your deal is killer I mean it is unreal compared to what I have seen dealing with bmw pompano

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Wait.

You have hijacked someone else's thread and want to turn it into a classified AND are now BUMPING IT?!?!

sorry, but i was just having conversation within the thread.

good deal?

2011 X5 50i

25K miles
-Tech Pkg
-Sport Activity pkg
-Premium pkg
-Active seats
-Premium Sound
-Rear Climate
-Cold Weather
-20" style 336
-Running boards
-Auto HighBeams
-HeadsUp Display
-Active Cruise
-Comfort Access
-Lane Departure

$51,000?

Save us the work... what was the invoice price (minus any incentives) for THAT configuration when purchased???? You should be 10k -12k under that

didnt think to compare it to BMW residuals.

Invoice was 74500, average paid was 70,100.. MSRP 81,000. 2Yr residual was 68% (likely inflated by BMW) , a more realistic residual would be maybe 64%, $51,840... got it for $49300. $21000 below average price paid.

Where did you get 10-12,000 under invoice/pricepaid as a guideline? $10-12000 reduction in 2 years seems way low, Id expect $20,000.