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cravin 12-02-2013 09:46 AM

Damn it, SA quit
 
Had a good enough relationship with him to where fees got waived, things fixed under warranty, etc. Now I have to start smiling and joking around with another person that I don't know. Damn it.

e30cabrio 12-02-2013 09:55 AM

Tell new guy to look at your history and treat you the same? If he offers resistance suggest there are other dealers in the sea?

cravin 12-03-2013 12:56 PM

If I didn't have bad luck with this truck, I'd have no luck at all. Came in, new SA threw me the coupon that my old SA used to for the oil change, so I'm happy with the $80 change. Then she comes over and I see Red on the report. Red is never good. Rear suspension air bags failed inspection and have a leak. I ask her the cost under CPO and she informs me that my CPO expired on 11/20 and there's nothing they can do to cover it. She is now looking for cheaper parts and manager agreed to give me a discount on the service, but I really REALLY don't want to dump another $900 into this vehicle.

e30cabrio 12-03-2013 12:58 PM

I got both my rear Arnott bags for under 200. Install is easy.

cravin 12-03-2013 01:02 PM

Can you tell me the part number or point me to the thread? Sorry to bother, but I looked up the DIY thread, and replacing doesn't seem that ridiculously hard, but that person used the OE bags at $280 a piece, so for a couple hundred more, I'd have them do it, but if I can save $700, I'm all in.

e30cabrio 12-03-2013 01:24 PM

Mine is an e53, looks like the e70 bags are more:
https://www.arnottindustries.com/par...21_pid198.html

cravin 12-03-2013 03:03 PM

Thank you very much. I had the air bags on my mind as one of the last "common problems" that hadn't hit my X5 yet. I've been hit with every other, so I was mentally prepared for it at least. I stopped by my Indy on the drive home, and he highly recommended the Arnott bags over the OE part. Cheaper and better were his words. Once he calls me back with a quote, I'll decide whether to do it myself. He confirmed that its relatively easy.

e30cabrio 12-03-2013 03:07 PM

It is super easy on the e53 & it looks easier on the e70.

ard 12-03-2013 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cravin (Post 967534)
If I didn't have bad luck with this truck, I'd have no luck at all. Came in, new SA threw me the coupon that my old SA used to for the oil change, so I'm happy with the $80 change. Then she comes over and I see Red on the report. Red is never good. Rear suspension air bags failed inspection and have a leak. I ask her the cost under CPO and she informs me that my CPO expired on 11/20 and there's nothing they can do to cover it. She is now looking for cheaper parts and manager agreed to give me a discount on the service, but I really REALLY don't want to dump another $900 into this vehicle.

Wait, your car was perfectly fine- took it in for an oil change- and somehow the airbags failed inspection without either a (1) dash warning, or (2) outward symptom?

Didnt know this was possible....

cravin 12-03-2013 04:33 PM

Funny you say that, because when she's telling me this, I'm looking at my X5 and it's just sitting fine, no droop, nothing.

So I look at the inspection report, and under Observation, it has Failed Task - Inspect rear suspension components - Found rear leaking air spring - Replace left rear air spring.

Then I look at the regular work invoice and it has -
78260 - Rear air bags need to be replaced, cracks that may cause a blow out.

So they obviously didn't find a leak, they found "cracks". I'm yet to find a piece of rubber that looks brand spanking new after 6 years of use, but it looks like this is just a good ole scare tactic.

That being said, it's such a common failure that I'm pretty sure that I'll need to replace them sooner than later.

seattle 12-03-2013 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cravin (Post 967580)
That being said, it's such a common failure that I'm pretty sure that I'll need to replace them sooner than later.

Sounds like they are trying to take you for a ride. Yeah, air bags leak at some point, but replace them when they fail. That could be a year, two, or three from now.
You are telling us you dont want to spend another 900$ on the vehicle, yet let them push you into replacing something that doesn't need to be replaced immediately.

ard 12-03-2013 09:05 PM

and there you go.

cravin 12-04-2013 08:34 AM

All of the comments including the one about the Indy were before I read through the invoice.

I'm not planning on doing anything right now. As mentioned, it could be years before the bag actually fails. Not like if I'm driving and it breaks that I'm going to swerve off of the road into a ditch.

e30cabrio 12-04-2013 08:37 AM

When it fails you should have plenty of notice. Mine was sitting down on one side when I went out for lunch one day. It pumped up fine and stayed fine until the replacement came.

cravin 01-03-2014 09:31 PM

She's dead Jim. Went to car to get sunglasses before taking kids sledding. As I open the passenger side door, I hear the air pump. Look back and it's lifting my passenger side rear. Was about a 4 inch life based on the separation from the icicle. Time to order a couple bags

rh71 01-03-2014 10:20 PM

does every E70 have these air bags or only the ones with 3rd row?

cravin 01-03-2014 11:22 PM

It's a third row thing I believe.

1naztyx5 01-03-2014 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rh71 (Post 972809)
does every E70 have these air bags or only the ones with 3rd row?


The 07's have them without third row seats

ard 01-04-2014 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rh71 (Post 972809)
does every E70 have these air bags or only the ones with 3rd row?

I thought it was an option on all E70s...but if you get the 3rd row it is required/included. So you could add it to a car that didnt have 3rd row. My recollection...

iconoclast 01-06-2014 10:02 PM

everyone and their brother told me not to own this car out of warranty... when i read threads like this it seems to reinforce their opinions.

cravin 01-07-2014 08:49 AM

Let's see if I can remember all the trips to the shop:

1) Rear bumper with the faulty clips. Replaced bumper
2) Peeling trim on Steering wheel and steering wheel rubbing hard while turning. Lubed steering column and replaced trim
3) Rear entertainment DVD drive stopped playing movies. New drive
4) Car throws up "level control system malfunction". Faulty sensor. Replaced sensor
5) Low on coolant. Cracked radiator that was replaced with all lines to/fro
6) Car overheats on highway. Broken water pump that was replaced
7) iDrive would freeze up. They reset and recoded iDrive
8) Rear hatch would close and pop right back open. Locking mechanism was jamming, so replaced whole latching mechanism.

All of those were covered under warranty or CPO.

8) Faulty air springs. Springs are here, but it's 3 degrees out. Not doing them today.

3Series 01-09-2014 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cravin (Post 973383)
Let's see if I can remember all the trips to the shop:

1) Rear bumper with the faulty clips. Replaced bumper
2) Peeling trim on Steering wheel and steering wheel rubbing hard while turning. Lubed steering column and replaced trim
3) Rear entertainment DVD drive stopped playing movies. New drive
4) Car throws up "level control system malfunction". Faulty sensor. Replaced sensor
5) Low on coolant. Cracked radiator that was replaced with all lines to/fro
6) Car overheats on highway. Broken water pump that was replaced
7) iDrive would freeze up. They reset and recoded iDrive
8) Rear hatch would close and pop right back open. Locking mechanism was jamming, so replaced whole latching mechanism.

All of those were covered under warranty or CPO.

8) Faulty air springs. Springs are here, but it's 3 degrees out. Not doing them today.

My experience:

1) Rear bumper with the faulty clips. Replaced bumper
Completed under warranty
2) Peeling trim on Steering wheel and steering wheel rubbing hard while turning. Lubed steering column and replaced trim
Need to do this, car is out of warranty
3) Rear entertainment DVD drive stopped playing movies. New drive
Completed under warranty
4) Car throws up "level control system malfunction". Faulty sensor. Replaced sensor
Have not experienced
5) Low on coolant. Cracked radiator that was replaced with all lines to/fro
Replaced out of pocket with indy. $800 or so.
6) Car overheats on highway. Broken water pump that was replaced
Replaced out of pocket with indy. $1,000 or so, I also had brake labor in there.
7) iDrive would freeze up. They reset and recoded iDrive
Have not experienced anything major yet.
8) Rear hatch would close and pop right back open. Locking mechanism was jamming, so replaced whole latching mechanism.
Replaced under warranty

cravin 01-09-2014 01:45 PM

Forgot about the water in the tail lights. Replaced under warranty

cravin 01-10-2014 10:15 AM

Started it this morning, it through up a CEL and is idling hard. Just took it to Indy.

I LOVE THE RELIABILITY OF BMW!

cravin 01-10-2014 11:20 AM

An ignition coil failed

iconoclast 01-11-2014 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cravin (Post 973903)
Forgot about the water in the tail lights. Replaced under warranty

friend of mine has a '10 (48i) and his roof drains (or roof) were faulty and water collected inside the car and the tail lights and the dealer claimed it was the fault of the owner not BMW's problem and had to pay out of pocket. (out of warranty by about three weeks and no good will from BMW... kind of BS IMO.)


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