HELP - 2011 x5 ---- What a POS!
 

These new BMWs are pieces of shit. Absolutely ridiculous. I owned a 2005 330ci for 6 years without any issues at all. This x5 has spent more time in the shop than on the road!

Problem:
- engine light goes on for a day or two, randomly clears itself upon start up
- jerks while driving, puts itself in neutral, and dies.
- doesn't start, just turns over
- after multiple start attempts, dies right after I put it in drive
- after letting her sit for 10 mins, starts and drives fine for a couple days

Codes:
p1030 - Valvetronic motor
p2178 - Idle too rich
p0087 - Fuel rail pressure too low

I'm thinking:
- eccentric shaft sensor
- valvetronic motor itself


Any experiences? Anybody resolve this? I'm trying to avoid being bent over by BMW Service and Parts yet again....

What motor? When did you buy it?

2011 x5 35i sport activity

3.5 engine



bought it from a used car dealer in Kentucky 3 months ago.

Just a wild azz guess, but could be a Hurricane Sandy car that floated out on the mkt...

Just curious: how does a person in YYZ buy a used car from a KY used car dlr, and why?
GL, mD

So effectively no warranty?

Wait, you imported a used car from Kentucky to Canada and you bought it from an independent dealer?

Was it a smoking deal, any Carfax report or local inspection?

Mileage, ?? history of when was under warranty.

Jamilio posted on maxbimmer today when I recommended he come here for answers...from what he posted this morning the X has 110km and was purchased out of warranty...

That I did not know this morning...accident history? Service records? Did you drive it up or was it delivered? Did you see it in person for a test drive? etc...

Sounds like lots of preexisting issues... nobody is making you go to bmw parts and service - why would you, when out of warranty?

Hit Bimmex in Woodbridge or Markham, Raven Performance in Markham, or any decent indie with bmw knowledge - there are dozens of them in the GTA.

The only time I set foot in a bmw store after my warranty ended, was to get a bolt and a plastic piece for the rear wiper, which broke off during the last ice storm - it exists oem only.

Sent from my SM-N900W8 using Tapatalk

Jamilio,
Where in the GTA do you live? RMP is a solid shop...I hear nothing but great things about Rocco...I go to Bimmersport because it is closer...another great shop...

Unfortunately it sounds like you bought a x5 with a hidden history, probably why it was so cheap you bought it all the way in kentucky

Likely...
I would consider unloading it and taking a loss...if you keep it repairs will just keep adding up...or you can purchase a third party warranty...

I'd go to Rocco at RMP as well. Helped me a lot when I had my M3, he's a straight shooter

The title of this thread drives me nuts. Some details would help rather than going negative so quickly. How about the mileage, Carfax report, service history, etc.

Also, why is a 2011 not under warranty? If just out of warranty, perhaps some goodwill repairs or a TIS would be appropriate?

Its out of warranty based on the mileage.

The Canadian dealer is not going to do a goodwill repair on a US car.

I imported my 2010 from the US in December and could not be happier, checked the carfax out and lots of emails back and forth, flew down and drove home. It has a pile of miles but a 3 page service record and was a highway car so I was not worried at all.

I too really hate when people just go right to negative.

Bought it in Kentucky. Drove it up. "imported" it and registered it in Canada.

There is a difference of about $7000 but with repairs that is pretty well gone. Had to fix broken bolts in vanos system. Apparently a common issue.

Car has spent more time in the shop than anything else.

Has anyone had the same problem as me? Any ideas? Should I replace the eccentric sensor? valvetronic motor? something else?

Apparently these cars keep having the same issues across the board. I'm trying to find someone that has resolved the issues.

When you've been dealing with BMW bull and their terrible customer service...your left with nothing but negative unfortunately.


Carfax, history, all clean. Seller at the dealer auction was BMW lease. My friend owns the dealership, he went to the auction for me and bought a clean car.

This is just poor engineering.

anyone ever use NV Motor in Markham? Kennedy and 7 area.

So, it has 70K miles (US) ? That's a ton of mileage for a car that is 2 maybe 2.5 years old.

So far lots of comments, opinions, and questions...


Anyone have ideas? Solutions? (other than selling or scraping)

I think you were given some good advice. Find a good independent BMW mechanic, have him review all the problems and get them fixed. It's always very tricky when you buy without a warranty, but that's the gamble. If some of the parts are related to emissions, you may still get BMW warranty service. You'll probably have to get this done through the dealer. If you do have some warranty issues, you could always get the car fixed in Buffalo. As far as they are concerned it should still be a US car. The fact that the car was exported out of the US is a Canadian Customs issue and has nothing to do with BMW USA.

I feel you pain about Canadian prices, I used to live there.

Let me see if I understand everything correctly. You purchased an out of warranty X5 at auction, $7K under market value, with above average/high mileage.

Sounds like your friend did you a favor, however you don't understand the auto industry very well. At this point you need a better understanding of the situation from a macro level.

As already pointed out. Your options are:

1. Dump the car.
2. Get with a good mechanic or shop and sort out the issues.

The rest is a debate for another thread really. Out of warranty BMWs aren't as big of a deal as people make them out to be. However, one must have the knowledge and resources to take them on.

Everyone should stop with the comments and the owner needs to get the car scanned to figure out the issues. Could be something stupid that needs to be corrected instead of all the negative feedback.

I am very familiar with the car industry - thanks. :loco: If you actually read the original post, I was not asking what everyone thought I should do with the car. I was asking if anyone had a similar problem and resolved it.

But thanks for yet another, opinion. :yawn:

Thank you.

I took the car in this morning. We'll see what happens. I was hoping I could find someone who had the same problem and save myself the "try to find the problem" cost.

You are going to get negative comments when you title your post it's a "POS" yet you bought a high mileage vehicle, with no warranty and at an auction. Anyways, let us know how the dealer visit goes.

1) Took it to an indy. Not a dealership.

2) I call it a POS because it is. I've had other BMWs that never had issues like this and I hardly call 100k as high mileage. BMW engines are known for clearing 500k easily. These new ones are absolutely crap.

3) All cars, unless you buy brand new, come from an auction.

4) BMW has a terrible 80k warranty, so almost all used cars out of lease you'd buy would be out of warranty.

1) Good.
2) Have you owned a BMW SUV before ? They have more maintenance issues than a "car" like the '05 330 you had. There is more technology in the engines.
3) All used cars come from an auction? So when someone buys it from a private party or when it was a trade-in it was at auction?
4) There is a thing called a CPO warranty (I just had $4K in oil leaks covered). Used cars off of lease are out of warranty ? I bought mine off of lease 2 years old with only 15K miles on it.

jamilio:

Sounds like you got what you paid for--a high mileage, out of warranty, undocumented, over-used X5 for a cheap price. Surprised??

Good luck but stop trashing your bad choices here.:dunno:

Jamilio,

What Indy shop did you take the X to?

not to sound like a broken record and this will add no value but when you come to someone's house and have nothing good to say you will get :flame:. as some have said your choice was no one else's and if you wanted opinions don't come here with how you feel. you want to vent that's fine but opinion and advice on this topic should be kept separate.

:drama:

I took it to Nim at http://www.nveuromotor.com

Stance Factory in your area does great work as well...one of their techs (owner as well) used to be a tech at Bimmersport...just some FYI if NIM can't rectify the X issues...

Good luck and keep everyone posted

thank you. I will let everyone know what the issues were in hopes that it will help someone in the future.


....unlike a bunch of people who surf forums just to troll and state pointless opinions just for the sake of having their voices heard instead of giving advice from their own experiences.

If you don't have experience with what the thread starter is asking, Don't post! Your opinion is useless.

You win some you lose some, I bought mine with 130KM on it and no real issues so far.

Buying used and higher mileage is how we afford to get into the cars we want but I understand the risk going in and don't get mad if it fails.

Very true. I'm just more disappointed than mad. Always been a BMW guy but this is my first experience with an SAV

not to sound like a broken record and this will add no value but when you come to someone's house and have nothing good to say you will get :flame:. as some have said your choice was no one else's and if you wanted opinions don't come here with how you feel. you want to vent that's fine but opinion and advice on this topic should be kept separate.

:drama:

Love your responses. As stated earlier, this guy does not understand cars nor the industry very well. If he did, comments like "all used cars" come from auctions wouldn't have been said. Furthermore, if he is so risk averse, then perhaps he should have explored a CPO, BMW warranty add-on, or third party warranty for piece of mind.

I actually did offer some constructive feedback with suggestions such as try the goodwill route with his local dealer, find a good indy to diagnose the issues, or dump the car all together.

What I also find absolutely comical is his constant whining and complaining about people providing opinions. This is a public forum. And he did start the thread with his OPINION that X5's or at least his is a POS. :loco:

I disagree: you rolled on here '20 minutes ago', didn't get exact diagnosis of a couple of codes and rough ideas you had, and blame 'trolls' posting here.

Imo, having floated around here for nearly a decade, the trolls or 'pointless opinions' posting/posted here are few and far between.

This is the best info Board for Xs on the freaking planet; sorry no one could accurately diagnose your problems.

You are obviously a car maven and a BMW intelligentsia. Hope you get your very used car fixed.
GL, mD

Half way home the SRC sensor failed, I did not blame the brand.


Remember its a machine first and a BMW second, machines break.

:iagree:

Sure we pay allot for these things. So expect more. But in the end its just
a machine that cost $75K and a .25 cent piece can render it useless.
Guess some buy an old car with high high miles and expect it
not be an old car just because of that Roundel.

Many used cars are BUYER BEWARE, previous owners got the cream,
you get the sediment.

Although this thread is not going anywhere, due to the OPs general attitude, this gives me an interesting idea - maybe we should compile a common issues guide, in a separate thread?

If anyone thinks this makes sense, I'm more than willing to start with my 09 3.0 and a close friend's 10 3.0, with the list of things done in the last 4 and 3 years respectively.

Sent from my SM-N900W8 using Tapatalk

On the other hand my 06 530xit has 180+k miles and still runs with no warning lights on the dash or weird noises.There was not much done to it under warranty and in the last 20 k miles I replaced the alternator and pass side front axle with support. It is as complicated as any X5 and weights almost like X5- GVWR 5100 lbs.Oh,and it's a salvage,which along with the high mileage would render it not worth more than aluminum in it.
Dealing a lot with older BMWs my opinion is that most of the problems come with the age,not the mileage.Generally the electronic equipment does not wear with the mileage,it just gets old.Also,generally,BMW drivetrain and suspension is ,if not bulletproof,very reliable mechanically.

Any news on the X?

Just couldnt let this nonsense slide by...

Dude just because YOU made a mistake, dont blame "all the new ones".

Seems you have an odd way of determining your own personal view is reality... "all cars come from auction" and "almost all cars off lease would be out of warranty". Nowhere near true.

In fact picking up a car off lease with 30k miles, then adding an extended warranty is a great plan...but importing a car with unknown issues into canada and stripping any warranty in the process is not.

Or the comment that vanos bolts are a common failure- because that was on you car and some mechanic says "yeah, its common". Whatever... You asked "Apparently these cars keep having the same issues across the board. I'm trying to find someone that has resolved the issues" Maybe it isnt "Across the board" since nobody here is saying "yeah, mine had it"..maybe you bought a lemon, yet you are blaming "all of them" along with BMW.

Figured you'd be able to pull a fast one with your contacts and auction access? Why not have your friend who owns the dealership in KY fix it under the US warranty?

Enjoy the ride. (not the X, the rest of this little experience....)

I only regret that we will not be able to publish the vin to protect whomever you unload this on.

The End! Thanks, Ard.:thumbup: