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blizzard 07-30-2015 05:12 AM

Hi,
I think you should all just delete the whole emissions system at the first sign of it having issues (if you are out of warranty). Either drill the DPF or replace with a downpipe and take that DEF out of the equation. It should be a lot less than 1000$ for the job.
The diesel engine is a very good and tried one in Europe, and a diesel engine is way more appropriate for a big heavy SUV/SAV.
Just my 2 cents.

Hbones11 07-30-2015 07:26 AM

Unfortunately that will not pass annual State emission tests in the US

blizzard 07-30-2015 07:30 AM

then bribe the tester... do they really test for all that ?

Price 07-30-2015 09:18 AM

That's unethical, to say the least. I know, a foreign concept...

blizzard 07-30-2015 09:35 AM

but still i see a lot of US people using downpipes, how do they pass the inspection ? or they have no annual inspection in their states ?

ard 07-30-2015 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blizzard (Post 1046239)
but still i see a lot of US people using downpipes, how do they pass the inspection ? or they have no annual inspection in their states ?


Typically, yes- no emissions in many states.

Bribing inspectors is a thing of the past- in California they run stings for this. A guy has a shop and is clearing 100k a year.... he wants to take a crappy $100 bribe from a stranger?

Some people will swap parts every two years for inspection, but that means it has to WORK when you reinstall it.

bawareca 07-30-2015 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Price (Post 1046238)
That's unethical, to say the least. I know, a foreign concept...

It is very interesting to have been participated in two completely different social systems that share "some" moral values.

vetaldj 08-20-2015 03:35 PM

Well, here in CA emission test for diesel is total rip off.
You come in, they open a hood, check vin number, went for cup of coffee (maybe to keep you in for time needed :) ), come back, did some paper work, give you a bill for $70 and that's it.
At least it's what happen to me.

For gasser (for $15-20) they rally need to run tests and stuff.

I don't see any issue, personally, to pass it with any modification you want.

ard 08-20-2015 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vetaldj (Post 1048387)
Well, here in CA emission test for diesel is total rip off.
You come in, they open a hood, check vin number, went for cup of coffee (maybe to keep you in for time needed :) ), come back, did some paper work, give you a bill for $70 and that's it.
At least it's what happen to me.

For gasser (for $15-20) they rally need to run tests and stuff.

I don't see any issue, personally, to pass it with any modification you want.


Agree.

And the lobbyists for the BAR/emissions shops made sure to remove the 'new car exemption' that gassers got. Diesel owners have to get emissions tests from day one on new cars....

Hbones11 08-21-2015 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hbones11 (Post 1046203)
Been a few months since I posted an update on the DEF sensor codes 203/205. I drove around all winter with the CEL on then when warmer weather came around the CEL and codes disappeared. Definitely something temperature related in the tank. Got about 95k miles on mine now. The price of the tank assembly is ridiculous. Curious if anyone thinks I could get BMW to replace my tank/sensor combo at no cost. I read a few posts/articles mentioning BMW had to replace the tank because of EPA regulations. Thoughts?


Let me refocus this thread. Anyone have experience dealing with a DEF tank replacement related to CEL codes 203/205 and can share their thoughts?


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