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So i checked into my local BMW service station in Port Chester NY just to get an idea of what it might be. The person behind the service counter stated the VTG oil needs to be replaced in the transfer case.
Not quite sure what that is. Ive never had that done before. He quoted me about $150 labor plus the oil. Parts had the oil for $25 a quart. He mentioned the service notification can go on at 60k, 100k or when needed. |
I have code only for the VTG(transfer case) oil condition in my '06 530xit,but it had 170 k miles.
A sensor measures the resistance of the oil in the transfer case.More parts wear inside,more metal pieces in the oil,resistance decreases.At a predetermined point a code is set. |
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The TC oil is definitely not lifetime and albeit some SA claim otherwise, the owner's manual states the transmission fluid (at least for the ZF-6HP, don't know about the 8 speed) is 100K miles. The brakes have a fluid which is also not lifetime. |
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PS: not trying to be a dick here since I'm sure you're trying to help, just correcting inaccuracies that do nothing more than a dis-service... |
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From Pelican parts: " The transfer case fluid condition is monitored by the transfer case control module. In theory, you will be notified when a service is due on the info display via the transfer case control module. " BMW E90 Transfer Case Fluid Replacement | E91, E92, E93 | Pelican Parts DIY Maintenance Article |
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I've never heard of such sensor, for sure the ATC 700 in my 35d and the ATC 400 in my X3 don't have it and they simply monitored oil indirectly by tracking use and extrapolating the remaining useful life of the oil. Given the very limited gears in the transfer case the primary contaminant of oil comes from the wear of the clutch plates. The link you posted doesn't mention it nor does any of the BMW literature I have; perhaps you read it elsewhere (hopefully not a forum post ;)) |
Perhaps this will help.
So we are agreed that the alert is for the transfer case. Yes, it is condition based monitoring, but not via a sensor in the oil. That is the engine oil condition sensor, and it measures capacitance, not resistance. It isn't picking up metal particles in the fluid, but rather the depletion of the additive package. The transfer case fluid condition is not based just on mileage, like the oil change interval was based on fuel consumed. It is based on changing frictional characteristics of the gear oil, and the control box recognizing that those characteristics are crossing a threshold, measured by comparing slip characteristics (input and output speeds) and clutch engagement pressures (actuator torque). I don't have a quote from the manuals on this iPad, but here is a quote from a BMW tech with an extract from the manual which covers it. Sorry I had to use a forum post but it does include the extract from the technical literature. http://www.xoutpost.com/881911-post7.html Edit: there are likely differences between the various x-drive transfer cases as to the above details. I know the procedure changed relating to resetting the TC adaptations at some point. |
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In the newer generation BMWs the mileage is stored in the cluster and CAS actively,+many other modules but only passive.If you lower the mileage in the cluster and install it on the car it will take the mileage from CAS,no tampering dot will appear.Vice versa is valid too.If you install a different cluster ,or different CAS and VINs do not match,the tampering dot may appear.But many other functions will not work and the car will be a mess.I have never seen the dot illuminate on any of the new models,and after deep google research this is the only thread I found that mentions the tampering dot: http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...-dot-came.html But it is not very definitive after all.So yeah,the truth is out there ;) Sorry for the long post,at least we keep the forum alive and kicking. |
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