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Wagner 12-16-2007 09:19 AM

Ugh.
 
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http://www.autoweek.nl/nieuws.php?id=7871

brian5 12-16-2007 09:29 AM

I expected the X6 to look a lot more exciting than that. When I looked at the first picture, I didn't even realize that it was a BMW...

cmyX6go 12-16-2007 09:56 AM

Don't be a hater, it's going to be an Ultimate Driving Machine. I think I made the right decision to wait though. Now you guys can listen to me for another two years. :nanana:

brian5 12-16-2007 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmyX5go
Don't be a hater, it's going to be an Ultimate Driving Machine. <<snip>>

Oh, I don't hate it. I just don't think it looks exciting. X5 fills a particular niche but the 135i, 335xi, 535xi or 650i have so much more going for them if you don't need an X5.

cmyX6go 12-16-2007 10:43 AM

Sorry Brian, that was directed at Wagner for starting an UGH thread. He's the hater :rofl:

brian5 12-16-2007 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmyX5go
Sorry Brian, that was directed at Wagner for starting an UGH thread. He's the hater :rofl:

LOL

Wagner 12-16-2007 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmyX5go
Sorry Brian, that was directed at Wagner for starting an UGH thread. He's the hater :rofl:


Yes I am. :)

4.6is Ryder 12-16-2007 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmyX5go
Don't be a hater, it's going to be an Ultimate Driving Machine. I think I made the right decision to wait though. Now you guys can listen to me for another two years. :nanana:

Don't hate on the hater....this time he has a good reason to hate. :nanana: And yes you did the right thing. Sometimes a impulse buy is your best buy.......Phil

trueX5er 12-16-2007 11:35 AM

I like it :takecover

AzNMpower32 12-16-2007 12:38 PM

BMW needs a new colour palette. That red looks out of character with the sporty intent of the X6. I think it *could* look good in Mystic Blue or Alpin White. Deep Sea Blue would probably work too.

It would be cool if they worked out a panaromic moonroof for that too; I'm supposing the sloped roofline prohibits them from simply slotting in one from the X3 or X5, but I'm sure the Germans can do it. ;)

vinuneuro 12-16-2007 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner
Ugh.

:withstupi This thing is fuking ugly; looks like it might want to be a car, but BMW won't let it be so. Giant wheels might help disguise it though.

rayxi 12-17-2007 01:49 AM

Needs to be 4 inches lower and have much smaller wheel openings. Bigger wheels would help but there's a limit to how big you can go.

M6X 12-17-2007 02:00 AM

so the x6 is just like the x5 with less trunk space?

X5love 12-17-2007 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by M6X
so the x6 is just like the x5 with less trunk space?

i think the two major benefits are the looks and the handling. it's supposed to be a MUCH better performer and handler.

JCL 12-17-2007 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by M6X
so the x6 is just like the x5 with less trunk space?

Yes. bit it is also wider, longer, heavier, and has fewer seats. Oh, and it costs more. It does have some technical advances in terms of engines and drivetrain, which won't come to the E70 until next year's models.

Quicksilver 12-17-2007 02:40 AM

Which begs the question:

After all that talk about getting the X6 wazzz up with your not getting it? Did i miss your explanation???

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmyX5go
Don't be a hater, it's going to be an Ultimate Driving Machine. I think I made the right decision to wait though. Now you guys can listen to me for another two years. :nanana:


X5love 12-17-2007 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JCL
Yes. bit it is also wider, longer, heavier, and has fewer seats. Oh, and it costs more. It does have some technical advances in terms of engines and drivetrain, which won't come to the E70 until next year's models.

So why would anyone ever get a 335 coupe?

It's wider than the sedan... two less doors AND one seat less! And it costs more!!!

It's amazing that the car even sells!

:rolleyes:

brian5 12-17-2007 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5love
So why would anyone ever get a 335 coupe?

It's wider than the sedan... two less doors AND one seat less! And it costs more!!!

It's amazing that the car even sells!

:rolleyes:

What! You're kidding right?? :confused:

The 335i Coupe is a GREAT car :zoom: I took a test drive in one and I loved it. Unfortunately, I could only buy one car at this time so I went for the X5 4.8i instead.

Wagner 12-17-2007 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5love
So why would anyone ever get a 335 coupe?

It's wider than the sedan... two less doors AND one seat less! And it costs more!!!

It's amazing that the car even sells!

:rolleyes:


Poor comparison IMO, the 3er is geared for an entry level BMW buyer who wants a choice of either a coupe or sedan with a variety of motors (328, 335) where as the X6 will be expensive, carry four doors like a sedan, look like a pseudo-suv yet have very little usable space, ride lower then a X5 so lessening the ground clearance making the SUV part even less useful...etc.

I guess if LeMans is right, and he usually is, they don't intend to sell a whole lot anyway, much like the 6er, if that is the case that is all well and good but the X6 is still fugly compared to the E70 IMO.

JCL 12-17-2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5love
So why would anyone ever get a 335 coupe?

It's wider than the sedan... two less doors AND one seat less! And it costs more!!!

It's amazing that the car even sells!

:rolleyes:

While I recognize sarcasm ;) , I think you are on to something.

A 335xi coupe is everything that an X6 should be, in a 3 series. Hence my suggestion that if it was built on a 5 series platform (ie 6 series) and was a two-door coupe, not so heavy, and not confused by its SUV heritage, it could stand on its own. As it is it just seems to be in search of an identity.

Pentium 12-17-2007 12:26 PM

I like it!

don't know why :D

whoopy-do 12-17-2007 01:21 PM

it really is a pointless car to be honest .... but im sure it will sell like hot cakes!

Ill probably end up buying one......

LeMansX5 12-17-2007 01:45 PM

Why compare with X5? :confused:
Different target markets....and those BMW made this for, like it....and that's what matters.........BMW does not want X5 buyers moving to X6.....why make two cars exactly similar to each other.

Wagner 12-17-2007 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5
Why compare with X5? :confused:
Different target markets....and those BMW made this for, like it....and that's what matters.........BMW does not want X5 buyers moving to X6.....why make two cars exactly similar to each other.


Who knows, explain the 1er and 3er :rofl:

j/k

X5love 12-17-2007 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCL
While I recognize sarcasm ;) , I think you are on to something.

A 335xi coupe is everything that an X6 should be, in a 3 series. Hence my suggestion that if it was built on a 5 series platform (ie 6 series) and was a two-door coupe, not so heavy, and not confused by its SUV heritage, it could stand on its own. As it is it just seems to be in search of an identity.

My point was that people will go for the impractical as long as it looks better and is more rare, which IMOI is the ONLY reason the 3 coupe sells so well.

Mind you, I own a 335 convertible myself, I love the car and I would never even think of buying a sedan, but it's that same mentality that interests me in the X6--mainly the fact that it simply looks better than the hunky X5 which has lost much of the E53's sportiness, can't argue with that.

Steved 12-17-2007 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner
the X6 will ........ ride lower then a X5 so lessening the ground clearance making the SUV part even less useful...etc.

Not so. Perhaps someone else can dig out the info from the concept press release but IIRC it was something like 1cm lower or less than the X5, so the ground clearance for all practical purposes is the same.

Fredo 12-17-2007 05:57 PM

From the brief reviews I have read by journalists that have driven prototypes it sounds like the X6 will be a very impressive machine once you get behind the wheel.

It is going to be very interesting to see how the X6 does and whether there are sufficient people that want the dynamics over the practicality. I honestly think the rear seats are a major issue...people do look at practicality. I have lost count of how many people have rightly criticised the 6 series for it's poor packaging having very restricted rear space for it's size. It's cost BMW a lot of sales in my mind. I think only being able to carry four people will be a similar problem for the X6.

Steved 12-17-2007 06:04 PM

I agree with you about the limited seating, and will be interested to see how popular it becomes. Otherwise I actually see it as practical enough for most people's needs.

We need BMW to remove some of the risk of being an early adopter, none of us are particularly keen on taking a bath and being the only ones buying an X6 so what BMW do over the next few months will be critical to the X6's success.

I have said it before and will say it again, if BMW have not entered an X6 in the Paris-Dakar and therefore underlined its dynamic brand quality, then it risks being perceived as merely a (short-lived) fashion choice. I hope they're smarter than that.

Pentium 12-17-2007 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5
Why compare with X5? :confused:
Different target markets....and those BMW made this for, like it....and that's what matters.........BMW does not want X5 buyers moving to X6.....why make two cars exactly similar to each other.

:iagree:

there are some X5 owners planning to get the X6.

LeMansX5 12-17-2007 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pentium
:iagree:

there are some X5 owners planning to get the X6.

... and those are the ones like cmyX5go who are waiting for X6. ;)

brian5 12-17-2007 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5
... and those are the ones like cmyX5go who are waiting for X6. ;)

"... were waiting but decided not to wait for ..."

LeMansX5 12-17-2007 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by brian5
"... were waiting but decided not to wait for ..."

....because they don't want the X with first year bugs...but will get the 2nd MY. X6 is not coming till Q2 2008.

scott27 12-17-2007 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeMansX5
X6 is not coming till Q2 2008.

US launch: April 19
Euro launch: May 31

Fredo 12-18-2007 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steved
I agree with you about the limited seating, and will be interested to see how popular it becomes. Otherwise I actually see it as practical enough for most people's needs.

We need BMW to remove some of the risk of being an early adopter, none of us are particularly keen on taking a bath and being the only ones buying an X6 so what BMW do over the next few months will be critical to the X6's success.

I have said it before and will say it again, if BMW have not entered an X6 in the Paris-Dakar and therefore underlined its dynamic brand quality, then it risks being perceived as merely a (short-lived) fashion choice. I hope they're smarter than that.

Wise words. I think at least in the UK BMW are not sure about sales....it's been priced more attractively than I would have thought. The indicated pricing of a 5% premium to the X5 SE seems like the absolute lowest it could have been....I certainly didn't think it would be cheaper than the X5 M Sport. I think that says a lot about BMW's expectations on sales.


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