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X6 reviews
Car Magazine review
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Drives/...ontent-block=0 Autocar review 50i - http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...ive50i/232095/ 35d - http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...ive35d/232109/ |
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Seems to be some of the worst BMW reviews I have ever read...I guess I'll reserve my total judgement till the arrival of the X6 ///M.
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wo0ow edmunds really hated the x6 50i ,,, i never thought the the site thetruthaboutcars.com would like a bmw more than edmunds , im really surprised.
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LM, et al...thanks for the review links.
Like many of us here, I'm curious about the X6: would like to drive one, (more than around the block), and I look forward to C&D, R&T, et al, doing review(s). I suspect however, that it will be more of the same: very good handling, cool looking to some, a real niche car, very heavy, (almost embarrasingly so), very expensive in loaded versions, etc. Honestly, I would not mind having one, but I'm am unable to rationalize the price/cost and real world mpg of this new car. It does look good to my eye, but not in the cards, for us. BR,mD |
I was surprised at Edmunds' review too, they love BMW's. Will have to test drive one to see whether the marginal performance gain is worth the nill utility compared to E70. Anyone else think the X6 would've been a stupendous hit with some kind of manual transmission?
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I don't know about the manual, per the review information the three potential deal killers for me would be: terrible rearward visibility (safety issue), numb steering, and the unsettled transmission.
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EPA estimates for the X6 35i is only 15/20... only one MPG better than the X5 4.8:rant:
I am really disappointed. That is my deal killer. :thumbdown |
That is new information and I agree that it is very disappointing. Back to my X5 diesel wait unless I just break down and do an S550.
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Overall driving experience seems very positive with few major negatives. Seems like most of the negative reviews are related to the practicality or lack thereof of the X6. If gas mileage, practicality, and window pillar trim (;) )is a big part of the car buying decision process it seems like the X6 should be crossed off the list.
So far so good IMHO and I am still looking forward to getting behind the wheel for a test drive :thumbup: Will I be willing to shell out $80+ for this is a whole other question. |
X6 Reviews
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Can't disagree with anything you've said. In fact, my wife has said pretty much the same thing and we're still going to drive it. We are just looking for the most comfortable (for us) and fun two person travel vehicle for long trips that can also haul two more people for 45 minutes to the city or airport.
But like the pic you posted, I wonder how it will work for my 5'2' wife-particularly rear visibility. And, I wonder about the transmission and steering (though the non active, which I prefer, seems to be getting better reviews than active) and I wonder how many compromises you make for a $70k car. It will be fun to see how a test drive answers these presumptive questions for all of us. |
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I hope BMW used a better back-up camera than the piece of junk that is in the X5 - you will actually need to use the camera in the X6. |
The new variables (input data points) over the past few days are:
1) Few scattered reviews from common magazine and websites. A lot of comments about utility, style, and function. Is it worth the extra money? Some negative comments about the potential buyers of that car...etc 2) Release of the X6 specs (EPA, Wight... etc) 3) The pictures of the view (or lack of) from the rearview mirror provided by Palbay. Here are my thoughts (rant). 1) Regarding function, style or utility: If I’m buying a car, I really need to like it, and as a minimum, I need to make sure the wife doesn’t hate it… In summary, the new reviews did not and should not change anyone opinion of the car!! - X5 and X6 comparison are bound to happen. Same car manufacturer, same interior and only differ on the outside and some performance. - Almost anywhere you find a forum discussing the X6, you can not help but wonder, what in the hell did the X6 do to people? Why so much negativity. It is not a gas Guzzler like a hummer, nor it is being built by malnourish or abused workforce in some 3rd world country. 2) The specs are somewhat disappointing. I was hoping for a lighter vehicle, and better MPG’s. 3) Some commented negatively about that aspect (rearview). It is a legitimate point of concern which I had myself. But anyone who sat in the car would have noticed it. I categorized that point under the “sacrifice for style” and “I can live with”. One thing you can say about BMW is that they recognized it and made the PDC part of standard equipment. Anyway, I am still planning (though disappointed with MPG’s) to test drive the car and see for myself. |
X6 Reviews
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Good comments all, imo...
As I wrote earlier, I really, really like the look of the X6; and the handling sounds pretty damn good espc. in view of its weight. We have a diff situ being retired and thus, the entry cost point combined with a potentially so-so mpg for the real world driving we do, is an economic hurdle that is hard for us to overcome or rationalize. The rear vis situ is of zero concern and the nits in the reviews are not really a neg, either. No manual is odd, and it is a porker and it is large, (for a 2 + 2), and it is damn pricey...but, I still like the look and the idea. Wish it weighed 600+ lbs less, got a few more mpg on hiway, came with a manual trans and didn't cost $70 in medium trim. Woulda, shoulda, coulda...I still like it, though. |
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Wife currently has a 328xi but we were looking for something larger and more comfortable for longer trips. My 335i coupe isn't it. Seeking to replace a leased A8 we had for this and go down to two vehicles.
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Terrible gas mileage :rofl: |
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Hey Pal,
Have you checked the specs on turning radius compared to an X5? The X5 is 42'. I won't post the X6 number here because the one I saw seems incredibly low. Thought you might have seen one we can trust. I think we are all waiting to see who will be the first to get a test drive. If I like the ride and drive, and can live with the visibility issue, my color is white with most options. |
X6 Turning Radius
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Thanks, LeMans. Appreciate the reviews. Seems they are more positive lately. Definitely can't wait for them to arrive this week.
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X5 or X6
The wife has been looking for a new vehicle to abuse. Her words " I'd like a car that has the ride height of an SUV". We looked at the:
Audi Q7 - nice, but to mini van like, Porsche Cayenne - both of us were shocked on how bad the interior quality was and the ride was awful, No Thanks.. Mercedes Benz ML -not bad, but not a big Benz fan Infiniti - no thanks, even though they have a wonderful service dept. Caddy Escalade - to big, I actually didn't hate this SUV, like I thought I would. Odd. BMW X5 - she loved this vehicle, but the salesman mentioned the X6 was coming. So it looks like a X5 or and X6, V8. Waiting on the X6 to arrive. To compare. |
X6 35i is at dealers now. X6 50i TT V8 will arrive late summer.
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Lemans,
I was told Thursday by my dealer that the X6's were going to have a "short delay." Not sure how long this means but he indicated it was on a national basis. |
The dealers have 35i demos now. But they are taking orders.
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I own a 2007 X5 and was waiting for the X6 to determine my buying decision for 2009.
I sat in one at the dealers(none available for test drive) and at this point the X5 is my choice. Wish I could I could buy both but need the utility and visability of the X5. |
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I spoke to my salesguy yesterday. He just came back from the PC where they drove the X6. All he could say was :wow:
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Got my invitation to check out the X6 this Friday but it looks like we won't make this one. No big deal though as it would not be a consideration for us.
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X6 Review Quote
When I read the June 2008 Winding Road review by Matt Davis of the BMW X6 that LeMansX5 posted, I was amused with the very cutting and glib, yet accurate and appropriate statement that really does sum up this vehicle and its most likely market very succinctly, whether we are willing to admit it or not:
"The X6 is a niche crossover for the affluent wastefuls out there who crave individualistic form over individualistic function. Basically, it is a silly SUV for people with enough fun money to never worry about home foreclosures." Now, will that observation stop some from buying or leasing a X6? Probably not. But for many of us who fall in the category stated in this review, even we can't rationalize spending the money for this vehicle. When BMW finally makes the TTV8 an option in the X5, it will go a long way to satisfy those of us that really do need decent cargo capacity for trips and comfortable seating for 4 adults, while not sacrificing acceleration power, clear rear visibility and the expected BMW "driving fun factor". AVB-AMG |
Add DR's review to the mix. When I have had a week in the car I will post up my drive impressions to add to Richard's.
http://www.drivers-republic.com/news...e_22_05_08.cfm |
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Recently that bar moved though, I ran a Cayenne GTS for a week and its chassis edged ahead of even my favourite AMG, but the X6 has made the GTS seem archaic. I was really worried that selling my ML63 for an X6 would be a bad decision, but I am really glad to find that BMW (for once) haven't let us down. Now all I need to figure out is how to fit AMG's V8 in the beemer..:dunno: |
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Thanks for your comments. I have not driven the Porsche Cayenne GTS so can not speak from experience to compare it to the ML63. While the aesthetics of the Cayenne have never appealed to me, at least it can accommodate 4 normal/tall adults and their luggage, while also providing expected adequate rear vision and silly fun-inducing handling and speed, something that the X6 cannot do. My 3 year lease on my ML63 expires in the summer of 2010 so whatever vehicle I end up getting may not even be available or announced yet, but it is fun to explore and speculate what my next vehicle will most likely be. I have a real preference for Mercedes-Benz and BMW vehicles, but will also consider Audi and maybe even Porsche. Now, having said all of this, for the sake of full disclosure, I really do feel conflicted.... Having seen and sat in all four seats of the X6, but not yet having driven it, I have a real fear..... That fear is that I will like it. Really, really like the way it drives. Then I will be really screwed! How can I justify to myself and my wife that I want a new vehicle that is not practical in any way for us, just because I really like the way it handles? I don't think I can There's the dilema... AVB-AMG |
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Like you I suspected rear vision would be badly compromised, but I haven't found this to be true in practice. I have had several tight maneuvers to perform between parked cars and didn't have any trouble. I can still see cars driving behind me, just not their front lights, but otherwise it doesn't feel particularly different to driving any other car. Again, I will see how this feels over a few days and let my wife drive it and tell me what she thinks. Key difference to me when comparing chassis of X6 with ML is how broad and stable (laterally) the X6 feels by comparison. The ML could at times rock from side to side on a bumpy road - it was fine once turned in and loaded up though. Also, my ML63 was lowered by an inch or so (by spacing the ride sensors) and that improved the handling. You may remember that I pitted the ML63 against a Cayenne Turbo and Lotus Elise S in EVO magazine last year, and both ML and Cayenne lapped the circuit quicker than the Lotus. The ML63 rolled more than the Cayenne, yet was less than a second slower and was the more engaging car to drive. The X6 has even less roll than that Cayenne, but when you are in a corner and the front starts losing grip you can feel the rear differential (DPC) channeling power and pulling it out of the corner. That capability alone would make quite a noticeable difference on tighter corners. But also it all feels so easy and undramatic in the X6. Taking aside its ultimate pace, the real bonus of the X6's chassis is how effortless it feels to cover twisty roads. That's a nice bonus. |
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I took delivery of my X 3.5I 6 days ago from BMW of West Springfield and I love it.
I was fortunate to test drive a sport package equipped X6 4 weeks ago and then ordered mine without the sport package as I felt the 20 in rubber was a bit to responsive to my liking. I had concerns of the somewhat low EPA fuel mileage figures but upon researching found the US figures to be somewhat Conservative. You really have to look at the new EPA system and read between the lines. The X 3.SI is actually rated 12 to 18 city for most drivers, average 15. and 16 to 24 highway average 20 for most drivers. Upon taking delivery the wife and I drove to Bean town on the pike with the on board recording 21.5 at quick highway speeds. Let's face if anyone who can afford to buy a X then a few mpg's does not matter to us, now does it? The TT6 has plenty of toque to keep the transmission from down shifting while pulling the hills, no wind noise from the roof rack ( that I never had a use of ) as I had in my X5. The Nav system is far superior to the previous system used on the 04 X5, and the blue tooth hands free phone is a dream to operate, as for rear vision the outside rear view mirrors give a good large area of visibility and the rear camera when paired up with the PDC work great. My 04 X5 also had blind spots in the rear view and had more in the side view.s so all in all I think the X is gives me better rear visibility. Hope this helps. |
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Is this the first US owner review on this board? By the way, were you on Newbury street this weekend? |
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Thank you guy's
I was able to dive it 400 enjoyable miles this past week. Boston X5 4.4 I was on Newbury St after the game Tuesday May 20th |
I have about the same number of miles on mine and am very happy with it. My 69 year old parents rode in it all weekend and were extremely comfortable. My mother had to learn how to successfully enter the rear seat given her bad knees but had nothing but compliments afterwards. Both continually commented on the quiet ride, smoothness, and comfort. These are people who never spend more than $25k on a car and who liked our Audi A8 but said this had less noticeable "roll" for them as passengers. Of course, it might have just been my driving slower...
I find X6 easier to drive in stop and go traffic than the A8-something about throttle modulation maybe. It is a little heavy feeling at times but handles superbly for a car its size. Maybe because I still have the 335 coupe which has a firm ride but I find it to ride very smooth even with the 20"s and sport package. Haven't got the full functionality of address book for Iphone with bluetooth yet but haven't completed the process with the dealer. Rear camera is barely adequate but is helpful for backing. Visibility is ok- if you like this car it is a reasonable trade-off. If you don't like this car, it might be unacceptable. BTW, auto folding mirrors are terrific as I could not fit it into garage without this feature-and I have a fair sized 3 car garage. Check your measurements. Like most BMW's, the X6 seems to drive better the faster you go or the more you push it. Given that we are still in break in period, it should only get better. Mileage is 21 on the highway and 17 overall at the moment. I still have to play with the seat to get maximum comfort but am thrilled that I did not get the X5. This is much more car-like in my opinion and more fun to drive. One negative is that everyone is staring at you. I've had people in turbo Carrera's pulling me over to get a better view and discuss it. Not really into the "look at me" thing. If you get white note that the exhaust discolors the molding under the pipe. Looks like it will need to be cleaned like brake dust on wheels. |
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Was at a local dive bar grabbing a burger for lunch today and saw on the screen over the bar that ESPN was doing performance reviews of the X6. Sound was down, so I couldn't hear how their review went. But they were putting the X6 through its paces on a test course. Anyone DVR this or have a link to it?
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