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Originally Posted by crystalworks
Making you cover the weapon is in no way infringing on the second amendment.
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Joseph - I can respect your viewpoints on everything, doesn't necessarily mean I agree but I can respect it, probably helps that you are in TX and not speaking to me from the utopia of NYC or San Fran -
However I had to highlight that line in bold - the problem with that statement is once you start with "well the government will make you cover the firearm because its not allowed", then leads to "well the government thinks that you need a lot of training to qualify for this concealed carry license", followed by "there is too much danger to the public to have people carrying firearms, if you believe that you should carry a firearm you have to prove justifiable need to do so in front of a judge", which is what we have in NJ - and along the way, all you will hear is "xxx provision in no way infringes on the 2nd Amendment"
There was a large case lost in one of the circuits of appeals a couple years back from NJ which the guy was challenging the no-issue/justifiable need in our state and the appeals court upheld the lower court ruling which was that it "in no way infringed on the 2nd Amendment or Heller or McDonald cases" - Basically that ruling has kept NJ from getting its carry rights back as the anti-gun majority in the legislature would never pass a resolution removing "justifiable need" - there was something our governor did recently trying to add the words "serious threats" to the definition of justifiable need, technically giving a bit more lee-way in the possibility of a private citizen obtaining a carry permit and that tiny measure was stopped so fast by the legislature you couldn't even blink.
So that line does bite me a bit raw personally as I think its a slippery slope, again, I am changing my situation for the better and thank you for your well wishes, but in our state of 9 million plus people and living here my whole life, I realize how much of a bubble we the people have been grouped into, and there is a ton of crime in our inner cities.
But yes we don't have to agree on everything and its nice to share opinions even though they may not match.