Originally Posted by crystalworks

I hear you, and I wasn't necessarily arguing the current legality of open carry. More so the consideration for the other patrons of an establishment who aren't as comfortable with firearms as you might be. It doesn't hurt to just cover up the weapon.

Again not something I agree with you on but you share the view of many. A firearm on someone's hip also doesn't hurt anyone. My shotgun sitting on my porch in a chair doesn't hurt anyone. Unfortunately decades of conditioning society to fear the sight of a firearm in public can have that effect, but again I respect your feelings on it.

And I can definitely believe that in his particular state of residence. There are lots of other places where the right outspends the left considerably. On many different issues. It's one of the reasons I believe money should not be a motivator in a political system... once Citizens United (what a name, has much less to do with Citizens and much more to do with special interests and corporations) passed everything started going down hill, and will continue to do so.

Agreed 100% on all fronts, but with Hollywood, et al, dominating the spectrum (no money there right), its hard to keep money out of politics completely. I am not on the Trump train, BUT, I will say I think he signed an order stopping government employees from becoming lobbyists? I am ALL ABOUT THAT. Unfortunately the federal government used to be about doing your service and going home after a few years, and now its become making a career in government, and then becoming a lobbyist after the fact, DC is a huge hole that you never leave once you get in, hugely frustrating.

I hear you, and don't necessarily disagree with any of the above. I've always believed (well since being old enough to care about how our country runs) that the law should apply equally to our politicians/law makers. But it doesn't... and now that we have unlimited money pouring in from everywhere into our election processes that isn't likely to change anytime soon because it is so hard to get anyone out of office. WHY DO WE NOT HAVE TERM LIMITS??? Aaaarrrrgg. Oh, sorry... #triggered

So you support Article V Convention of States then to get term limits and other functions to limit our federal government's bloated bureaucracy right? We know they would never vote on it themselves (give up power, LOL) Its the only way you will get term limits, by amendment to the Constitution. If you served 12 years, 6 as Congressman or 2 terms as Senator, you've done enough in Government.

Also don't get me started on how Article III mentions NOTHING about lifetime appointments for Supreme Court or lower court justices. "In times of good behavior" is not a lifetime appointment.

The elites do drive the political spectrum and unfortunately they take the long road (progressivism, if you will) to chip away and widen the gap between the "common folk" who laws apply to, and the elites, who have an exception because they are a "different type of people" - similar to asking a politician in NJ why they are able to get a concealed carry permit, they will respond without hesitation that they need it because obviously being a politician they are at higher risk than you or I, the commoners.


I do enjoy coming in here though and viewing all the firearm pron you guys post. Even if I have no idea what you are talking about most of the time.