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Originally Posted by crystalworks
Looking at VAERS, deaths from all vaccine manufacturers are 8974. 190M Americans are now fully vaccinated. That's 0.005%, acceptable odds for me and my family. Others may come to a different conclusion as they see fit.
Myocarditis cases appear to be very low, and permanent damage resulting only ~20% of those cases. https://www.aappublications.org/news...s-rates-061021
Look, I've learned already that trying to convince someone on either side of this issue is an exercise in futility. I tend to fall down the middle, as I do on most issues. A reason can be found to support just about any position.
And that's fine, I'm certainly not trying to impune your service to country or its ideals. Both my parents are military, many other family members have served, and I admire all members of the armed services. Yourself certainly included. Again, I am generally against mandates on citizens, but when it comes to schools... with the data currently present, I believe we are better off vaccinating than not. I just ask the same courtesy of not impuning my pride in being American. This country has its share of sins, the citizenship is a mixed bag, and our politicians greedy a$$holes. But I'd rather live here than anywhere else in the world. 
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CW
Didn't mean for you to take it as impugning your pride, etc. only that too many people just take whatever they are told as gospel since it comes from a tv anchor, politician, doctor or whatever with the belief that they MUST know correctly. But many of (if not all) get some kind of messiah complex and refuse to even make a cognizant argument for their position.
I check everything and that's why I'm still alive. I had a doctor keep saying an MRI wouldn't be a problem for me even though one of my injuries is from frag. If I had just accepted his "expertise" the MRI most likely would have pulled the metal through my intestines or liver.
I view this vaccine/virus issue based on odds.
Let's say in one area you have a 10% chance of getting covid19 without being vaccinated, if you do catch it you (1-25 years old) have a 99.7% chance of survival....
If you get the vaccine you have a 50% chance of some side effect.
If you're unlucky enough to be one of the 50%, then as a male (1-25) you have a +/- 20% chance of getting it being life altering myocarditis.
Those odds make the risk higher for children to get the vaccine vs. covid19 and remember to figure the age/sex not just for side effects but for risk of death from covid19.
Most numbers are done as say 150,000,000 total vaccinated vs 25,000,000 (15-25) vaccinated of which 50% are male and 20% getting myocarditis = huge risk numbers
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