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Originally Posted by accella4.4
Obviously a good offense is the best defense, but how do we address the larger, more long term issue of why in the world anyone can be convinced to become a "martyr"? How do we win hearts and minds before the bad guys do?
Why is it that people flock to the West and then try to cripple the very system that gives them so much freedom? How can any ideology have that much gravitas?
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Honestly, I take a sort of Israeli view to your first (martyr) question. I don't care why - I just want them to know we'll kick the living sh*t out of them, their family, and their whole freakin' neighborhood if they even look at us cross-eyed.
A less agressive side of me thinks that the issue is a lot of the people that "turn" toward martyrdom grow up under duress/tryannical living conditions. Obviously this doesn't adress the most recent bunch - the British "home-grown" terrorists. I think they are an offshoot of the first bunch. The first bunch are under duress (this is not a criticism of Israel or any other nation), and look for any way out. Basically they become enraptured by a cult of personality, foisted by the radical imams. They buy into it, some become imams themselves, and they travel, some to Great Britian. That brings us to group two. Is this deeply thought out and reasearched? Nope. But then I didn't claim to be an expert, either.
Question #2 ("flock to the west") - I think they are coming here to get an education (that is, take advantage of what we have), and then they treat us as they wish (boom). That may be overly cynical, but hey, see the end of the previous paragraph.
The main point is, we have to take this seriously, every one of us, every day until it's stopped. That's not easy, but it's necessary.