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Old 07-16-2007, 11:06 PM
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Car and Driver Lightning Lap: 335i tops Z4 M coupe

BMW’s 335i coupe lapped VIR’s 4.2-mile course in 3:10.5 (77.2 mph) vs. the Z4 M coupe’s 3:11.7 (77.0 mph).

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A 335i coupe laps Virginia International Raceway faster than a Z4 M coupe? That’s what Car and Driver found in its second annual Lightning Lap competition (August) in which the best car is the one with the quickest time around VIR’s 4.2-mile Grand Course. Thirteen cars took part, with the fastest being the Corvette Z06 at 2:58.2, the slowest the Mini Cooper at 3:22.9.

Car and Driver divided the cars into four classes based on price. LL1 was for cars under $30,000, with the Pontiac Solstice GXP running a 3:15.5, followed by a MazdaSpeed 3 at 3:16.0 and the Mini Cooper S. “With the least power and straight line speed among the entries this time,” CD wrote, “it’s not surprising that the Mini Cooper S turned the slowest lap time of 3:22.9. But that’s still faster [than last year’s VW GTI, Honda Civic Si, and Mazda MX-5]. Furthermore, the Cooper S turned its laps with style.”

The BMWs were in LL2 for cars of $30,000 to $60,000, won handily by a Corvette with the Z51 package, at 3:03.6 (third fastest overall), followed by a Ford Shelby GT500 at 3:05.9, BMW 335i coupe at 3:10.5, and BMW Z4 M coupe at 3:11.7. “Between the two [BMWs], you’d expect the 335i to be more supple over bumps, have vastly more interior room, and be as refined as a Lexus,” CD said. “But what floored us was that the 335i’s best lap (3:10.5) was 1.2 seconds quicker than the M coupe’s. It’s a case of neutral handling over outright speed.”

In LL3, for cars up to $120,000, the order was Corvette Z06, Porsche 911 GT3, Lotus Exige S, Audi R8, and Audi RS4. Compared to the RS4, the magazine noted, “the BMW [335i] was almost one second quicker around VIR … and if it weren’t for the four-wheel-drive system … the RS4 would have been farther behind the competition.” As for the other Audi, “The RS8 sounds stupendous, but the gated shifter becomes tiresome after a while … [and] being the second heaviest car in LL3 counted against the RS8 at VIR.” There was just one car in LL4, for cars up to $240,000, and there the Porsche 911 Turbo “was terrific on the street but disappointing on the track,” running a 3:05.8, sixth overall.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:59 PM
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wait til they try a 335i with a quaife LSD!! It will romp the Z4 M
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Old 07-17-2007, 05:25 AM
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I was reading this article on Sunday. Good post.
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:19 AM
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Not surprising, that TT engine is the best BMW has ever made IMO.
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:23 AM
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I'm curious what the 3 series body would do sporting the S54 motor. I wonder what role the torque difference would play.
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wait til they try a 335i with a quaife LSD!! It will romp the Z4 M
Josh, is it true that the new 335i's have the diff parts welded now so owners can't put in the quaife lsd and give the new ///M3 a run for it's money????
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Josh, is it true that the new 335i's have the diff parts welded now so owners can't put in the quaife lsd and give the new ///M3 a run for it's money????
EDIT: looks like the ring gear is welded. It won't be that long before Quaife or someone else starts making the ring, and fixes the problem. If they make the pinion also, they can give the option of changing the final drive ratio while they're at it.

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It's pretty obvious BMW is afraid the 335i is going to equal or outdo the M3.

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Josh, is it true that the new 335i's have the diff parts welded now so owners can't put in the quaife lsd and give the new ///M3 a run for it's money????
no clue.. I haven't done the LSD upgrade yet... Mine is a Dec build.
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no clue.. I haven't done the LSD upgrade yet... Mine is a Dec build.
Are you getting the ProCede from Vishnu? If so, plus the LSD...the ///M3 has no chance....
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