Dyno results from Procede V2 for 335i

Boston X5 4.4 · #1 11-16-2007, 02:47 PM

400+whp/420+wtq!
Procede V2 ,Vishnu Cat back exhaust , and 98 Octane fuel Mix. The dynos show Stock hp without Vishnu Catback exhaust and then with Procede V2 added on - this car is a beast!

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/s...d.php?t=104948

Wagner · #2 11-16-2007, 02:50 PM

Then the motor went BANG. If it could reliably make those power numbers over time, BMW would have made it that way from the factory. They aren't out to build crap rides

Boston X5 4.4 · #3 11-16-2007, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner

Then the motor went BANG. If it could reliably make those power numbers over time, BMW would have made it that way from the factory. They aren't out to build crap rides

Yeah, that's what I was wondering too - how much more can it take.
Although, V1 has been around a year or so (?) and I haven't read any cases of blown motors - I think one of the member here (SAN?) has it installed. V2 is certainly more extreme and seems to be tripping more codes. Time will tell.

SANguru · #4 11-16-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Boston X5 4.4

Yeah, that's what I was wondering too - how much more can it take.
Although, V1 has been around a year or so (?) and I haven't read any cases of blown motors - I think one of the member here (SAN?) has it installed. V2 is certainly more extreme and seems to be tripping more codes. Time will tell.

it was tripping codes because of bad harnesses.

SANguru · #5 11-16-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner

Then the motor went BANG. If it could reliably make those power numbers over time, BMW would have made it that way from the factory. They aren't out to build crap rides

7000+ miles already on v2 and I have intercooler upgrades.. where's the bang??? The bottom end and top end are both very strong and built of boost. BMW detuned the 335 motor so they don't have to further tune the normally aspirated V8 in the M3 and have it way overrun the M5. It's all marketing. I'm making over 450hp BTW and it's my daily driver and if you don't on it too hard, 28 mpg.

Wagner · #6 11-16-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SANguru

7000+ miles already on v2 and I have intercooler upgrades.. where's the bang??? The bottom end and top end are both very strong and built of boost. BMW detuned the 335 motor so they don't have to further tune the normally aspirated V8 in the M3 and have it way overrun the M5. It's all marketing. I'm making over 450hp BTW and it's my daily driver and if you don't on it too hard, 28 mpg.

I'll fully admit I don't have one, or have a friend with one. Just from most FI's I've seen on the track in the last 15 years...anyone pushing 100whp over stock was risking blowing the motor. Of course the Intercooler helps, but not as much as a upgraded internals. I'm surprised yours is lasting so long. What are the boost levels (dd vs what it could be).

SANguru · #7 11-16-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wagner

I'll fully admit I don't have one, or have a friend with one. Just from most FI's I've seen on the track in the last 15 years...anyone pushing 100whp over stock was risking blowing the motor. Of course the Intercooler helps, but not as much as a upgraded internals. I'm surprised yours is lasting so long. What are the boost levels (dd vs what it could be).

That's a misconception. Most of the turbo motors now are built pretty damn strong. Subaru and Evo motors along with audi 1.8t and 2.7T blocks are bulletproof. Tune it correctly, get enough spark and fuel and you are completely fine. It's those who slap kits together and don't a/f that will blow stuff up. The 335i motors are good for up to 600-700hp easily. It's the tranny and drive train that you have to worry about. I did a blackstone report both after V1 and V2 and check my plugs and my motor is burning very clean and burns no oil. I would say even at 500hp at the crank, this motor is not stressed as show by the blackstone report.

Wagner · #8 11-17-2007, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SANguru

That's a misconception. Most of the turbo motors now are built pretty damn strong. Subaru and Evo motors along with audi 1.8t and 2.7T blocks are bulletproof. Tune it correctly, get enough spark and fuel and you are completely fine. It's those who slap kits together and don't a/f that will blow stuff up. The 335i motors are good for up to 600-700hp easily. It's the tranny and drive train that you have to worry about. I did a blackstone report both after V1 and V2 and check my plugs and my motor is burning very clean and burns no oil. I would say even at 500hp at the crank, this motor is not stressed as show by the blackstone report.

As I said, I've seen these FI's at the track so almost ALL are after market setups. I did watch many GT-S Eclipses blow rods right through their block. Haven't seen any FI factory models lately, like you mentioned. Curious what the clutch is rated to on the 335

I'd look to that as the first weak spot for getting the power down, followed by the trans as you mentioned. Are you running a manual?

Wagner · #9 11-16-2007, 03:01 PM

Give them time, I'm sure numbers in the mid 300s are fine, but up in the 400's....I wouldn't be doing that every day in a daily driver...but that is just me.

vinuneuro · #10 11-16-2007, 04:51 PM

I hope your maps aren't for 98, or you have the ability switch between multiple ones..

Agree with Wagner that anything beyond 350whp for a dd is pointless. How much did you make with the lude Ryan?