A New Chapter of ///M - Diesel ///M

[Markost12]

The difference between europe and the usa.
This car will be a hit in europe and makes more sense than the active hybrid or the 50i (when they have simillar price, consumption, driving capabilities).

The x5/6m is just one step away from it in terms of driving capabilities, but cant even immagine what tuners will make out of the diesel engine after it comes out.

[iMpower]

Originally Posted by Markost12

The difference between europe and the usa.
This car will be a hit in europe and makes more sense than the active hybrid or the 50i (when they have simillar price, consumption, driving capabilities).

The x5/6m is just one step away from it in terms of driving capabilities, but cant even immagine what tuners will make out of the diesel engine after it comes out.

Is the difference between the Europe and USA in terms of diesel fuel consumption because of the diesel's cheaper price in Europe? It is certainly not the case here in the USA.

As far as tuning, both engines are very tune-able.

[Markost12]

Originally Posted by iMpower

Is the difference between the Europe and USA in terms of diesel fuel consumption because of the diesel's cheaper price in Europe? It is certainly not the case here in the USA.

As far as tuning, both engines are very tune-able.

Diesel being 10% cheaper than gasoline. Especially when gasoline is around 8 USD/gallon.

[iMpower]

Originally Posted by Markost12

Diesel being 10% cheaper than gasoline. Especially when gasoline is around 8 USD/gallon.

According to this website Daily Fuel Gauge Report--national, state and local average prices for gasoline, diesel and E-85. the current national average price of diesel is almost 40 cents more per gallon than premium gas.

Premium is $3.48 and diesel is $3.84. Without trying to figure out the exact % difference the diesel is roughly 10% more expensive than premium.

While I agree that X5M is a fuel guzzler (though no gas guzzler tax!), I am doubtful that the M diesel with 380hp is going to be a fuel miser and will certainly consume more diesel fuel than the 35d.

All this brings me back to the question of what is the niche for this vehicle?
Is it the fuel conscious driver? If so, then this vehicle is not exactly an answer. With diesel being more expensive in the US and this M diesel car probably not getting a great mileage, then who did BMW marketing group ask or poll for the need of this vehicle?

Thinking out loud on the logic of this creation...

[LeMansX5]

Originally Posted by iMpower

According to this website Daily Fuel Gauge Report--national, state and local average prices for gasoline, diesel and E-85. the current national average price of diesel is almost 40 cents more per gallon than premium gas.

Premium is $3.48 and diesel is $3.84. Without trying to figure out the exact % difference the diesel is roughly 10% more expensive than premium.

While I agree that X5M is a fuel guzzler (though no gas guzzler tax!), I am doubtful that the M diesel with 380hp is going to be a fuel miser and will certainly consume more diesel fuel than the 35d.

All this brings me back to the question of what is the niche for this vehicle?
Is it the fuel conscious driver? If so, then this vehicle is not exactly an answer. With diesel being more expensive in the US and this M diesel car probably not getting a great mileage, then who did BMW marketing group ask or poll for the need of this vehicle?

Thinking out loud on the logic of this creation...

My guess is this is more for Europe and rest of world than US. BMW also has a M5 version with same engine in process, so they must have done some homework.

[Markost12]

I think about 70% of all BMWs in Europe are diesels.
Gasoline just does not make sense here, but I understand why you in the USA would not consider it.
Starting price of X5M in my country is 217.000 USD and premium is 8$/gallon.

[iMpower]

Originally Posted by Markost12

I think about 70% of all BMWs in Europe are diesels.
Gasoline just does not make sense here, but I understand why you in the USA would not consider it.
Starting price of X5M in my country is 217.000 USD and premium is 8$/gallon.

Two hundred seventeen thousand US dollars?

That is a ridiculous price for that car. No wonder nobody is buying it there then. I certainly wouldn't justify that kind of price either.

For this amount you can buy a Ferrari, or some very, very fancy, exotic car.