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Old 03-07-2012, 12:49 AM
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Again you are missing the point, the difference in sensor cost is marginal and does not account for the 1000$ difference in brake job quoted, the biggest difference is the difference in cost of the rotors
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Old 03-07-2012, 01:09 AM
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Those are expensive rotors and pads. But X5 M rotors are also big at 395 and 385 mm. I am sure you can get aftermarket brakes like Stoptech drilled rotors and pads for much cheaper.

Sensor costs are pretty much same across all X5s, M or not.
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Rotors being larger doesn't account for a significant price difference, since they aren't manufactured with a separate rotor and hat. Material cost is somewhere around $0.20 per lb. Differences will be due to the amortization of the design cost over a smaller production run, a more complex casting made for drilling, and the additional costs due to using different rotors for left and right sides, so increased set-up costs. Material and machining costs will be similar, a little more for the drilling. Maybe the scrap rate is a bit higher. I would bet that the warranty accrual costs are significantly higher, given potential abuse.

The rotors turn out to be around twice the price of the E70 rotors. So beyond the small justifiable differences, it appears BMW is charging much larger margins on the M parts. Good for them.

There is nothing special about the sensor, perhaps a different length wire attached to it. It is not different in and of itself, it is simply an indication of what their priorities were. Why would BMW go and design a new sensor for a relatively limited production vehicle and not use a stock item? Only because price wasn't an issue. You don't put new parts in the system if you can possibly help it.

My comment in post #16 was simply that the M brake parts are unreasonably expensive, ie the cost of the improved parts is not justified except by the M label.
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Your comment that dealers see M owners coming from a mile away was what made no sense as non of it has anything to do with M owner per se. Trust me BMW has been trying to save cost every chance they get, maybe the reason they made a different sensor is beyond your understanding
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$275 each for front rotors is a bargain considering the size and that they are a 2 piece rotor. Rotors for my wife's E63 are like $900+ each from Mercedes.
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Envy you US owner, we have to pay close to $2K for a full brake job here in Canada
Holy Crap! Does that come with a happy ending?

42k miles original pads and rotors. Including 5 laps around road America.
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So the parts prices don't look too bad, and as someone said, brakes should be the least of my concerns. On the service records I have looked at on a couple used examples, 29k seems like a point where it might need fronts.

My biggest challenge is getting the price right on a used one. I missed a 2010 with 29k miles for $60k a couple weeks ago, and it wound up at a BMW dealer who then listed it for $71k. I looked at one with 44k miles locally and they raised the price to above mkt. after I looked at it and they discovered it had a whole bunch of options. Luckily time is on my side right now.
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I looked at one with 44k miles locally and they raised the price to above mkt. after I looked at it and they discovered it had a whole bunch of options. Luckily time is on my side right now.
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Rule #1.. Don't let people know what they have in their hands.
lol. Yes, it was a complete FAIL on my part.
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My biggest challenge is getting the price right on a used one. I missed a 2010 with 29k miles for $60k a couple weeks ago, and it wound up at a BMW dealer who then listed it for $71k. I looked at one with 44k miles locally and they raised the price to above mkt. after I looked at it and they discovered it had a whole bunch of options. Luckily time is on my side right now.

I had my 2010 (42k miles) on eBay for $60k and got zero hits. It has about $20k worth of extras including 100k mile warranty, 21" summer wheels/tires and 20" snow wheels and tires.
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