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Old 07-03-2010, 11:04 AM
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BMW aus's site says that the 20d has 130kw and 350 nm and the 23d has 150kw and 400nm. Thats why i assumed you could chip the 20d to the 23d power levels. I have seen these gains on other diesel engines, but i'm sure these engines from BMW might be a bit different.
The X1 20d is the 177HP/130kw, but there is already an updated 20d on the 3-series with 184HP/135kw. This means it might be possible to get the 184Hp from the X1 20d if one would ever want that.

The 23d is a different beast, as it's the same 20d engine but with the bi-turbo technology of the x35.

Saying the 23d is similar to the 20d is like saying the 335d is similar to the 330d
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Old 08-12-2010, 05:25 AM
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I'm in London on business and have seen more than a few X1's in person... I like it, a lot. I hope it hits the US before September of 2011, it might be the new DD .... hmmmmm.
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I had one (2.0d) as a courtesy last time Xena was at the Dealers, sorry to say I didn't like it much. Couldn't put my finger on quite why, we just didn't seem to bond!
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:58 AM
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Driving a X1 25i now. Funny thing is that you would think that being a '25i' it would have a 2.5-litre petrol six. But it has a 3.0-litre petrol six that puts out 160kW, the sort of power you would expect from a 2.5-litre petrol six. The really interesting thing is that it produces its maximum torque at an almost turbodiesel-like 2500rpm. I guess all this is for fuel economy. I understand the X1 28i sold in other parts of the world (the US also?) is also a detuned 3.0-litre ... it's just not as detuned as the Australian-spec X1 25i is.
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Old 12-24-2010, 05:04 AM
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BMW has only "two engines", one with 4 and one with 6 cylinders. They have a base cylinder with 0.5 liters, and build engines with multiple of those. Ergo why they announced the 1.5l 3 cylinders for the upcoming generation.

The detuning is mostly for countries where the tax is based on the engine power. For example, the 116/316 and 118/318 models in some countries still have the 2.0l engine (albeit usually the previous generation)

Then on the other side of the scale, the 23 and 35 are still the 2.0 and 3.0 liter engines respectively, but both with the bi-turbo technology.
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BMW has only "two engines", one with 4 and one with 6 cylinders. They have a base cylinder with 0.5 liters, and build engines with multiple of those. Ergo why they announced the 1.5l 3 cylinders for the upcoming generation.
True with diesels but not with petrol as with the 25i, I mentioned. My apologies for introducing a petrol engine to a diesel engine tread.
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I really want to test drive an X1. After the disappointing experience in the new X3, I hope the X1 at least maintains some of the snappy handling and fun-to-drive factor. Still, I feel like I'm done with the BMW brand as nothing in their lineup in the US really fits my demands and preferences.
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Old 12-31-2010, 12:17 AM
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I really want to test drive an X1. After the disappointing experience in the new X3, I hope the X1 at least maintains some of the snappy handling and fun-to-drive factor. Still, I feel like I'm done with the BMW brand as nothing in their lineup in the US really fits my demands and preferences.
Well, the X1 25i I'm currently driving certainly has a good amount of the "snappy handling and fun-to-drive factor" you ask for, as it should given that it's the lightest and smallest of the Xs. I don't even mind the detuned 3.0-litre petrol engine ...
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