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Old 03-24-2015, 03:24 PM
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Sunny, you need to chill. Your approach comprises your position. Hard to think much of what you post just because of the way you go about them. FYI-I would say there is quite a difference between the use of your and you're----your car---you are car. I get your intention but not a good analogy.

Anyone could have the correct answer on this issue. Until the designer of the particular BMW transmission weighs in there is no way to be sure of what to do or why to do it.

Since there is no definitive answer, I bank on years of experience running many different types of transmissions in performance vehicles. I have always changed the fluid and filter on some reasonable interval. Worked then works now.
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Sunny, you need to chill. Your approach comprises your position. Hard to think much of what you post just because of the way you go about them. FYI-I would say there is quite a difference between the use of your and you're----your car---you are car. I get your intention but not a good analogy.
It's not an analogy...it happened (see post #83). My approach has been the result of people who can't argue their point so they resort to foolish tangents such as wording.

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Anyone could have the correct answer on this issue. Until the designer of the particular BMW transmission weighs in there is no way to be sure of what to do or why to do it.
The manufacturer has weighed in...in the warranty and service booklet that comes with the 2002 - 2006 model year E53's. Links were provided (see posts 96 and 97). Given this I fail to see why this is still an issue. It was resolved many posts ago.
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Old 03-24-2015, 06:32 PM
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It's not an analogy...it happened (see post #83). My approach has been the result of people who can't argue their point so they resort to foolish tangents such as wording.


The manufacturer has weighed in...in the warranty and service booklet that comes with the 2002 - 2006 model year E53's. Links were provided (see posts 96 and 97). Given this I fail to see why this is still an issue. It was resolved many posts ago.
You scare me! How long ago did you stop taking your medication for passive aggressive behavior? Do you have any guns?

As you have used the comparison it is a simile type analogy. That's the facts, Jack.

BMW is not the mfg. of the transmission used in an E53. There is no definitive answer to this issue unless we had input from the designer of the transmission. That's the truth, Ruth.

It is obvious why you fail to see this as an ongoing issue. It requires logical thinking.. I suggest it would be good idea if you put yourself to bed, Ted.
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You scare me! How long ago did you stop taking your medication for passive aggressive behavior? Do you have any guns?
You mean like JCL? Several of his posts towards me are hostile, derogatory, and juvenile. Another poster being petty and arguing over the word "you're" versus "your"? Yet somehow I'm the bad guy? JCL just needs to admit he was in error and move on.

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As you have used the comparison it is a simile type analogy. That's the facts, Jack.

BMW is not the mfg. of the transmission used in an E53. There is no definitive answer to this issue unless we had input from the designer of the transmission. That's the truth, Ruth.
So what? BMW is the one who provides the recommendations for service on their vehicles.

It's amazing how desperate people are to continue to defend this urban legend. It's is absolutely amazing.

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The manufacturer of component parts of a vehicle doesn't set the
maintenance intervals, the manufacturer of the complete system,
ie the vehicle does. The tranny manufacturer doesn't know what
weight vehicle it's in, what HP, what operating conditions, what
loads it pulling/carrying, etc. The tranny manufacturer wouldn't
even see the problem history, customer complaints, etc directly
over the years, BMW sees it directly. Presumably they would
forward that to ZF, etc, but still BMW would have the most relevant
history on the vehicles.
^ what he said! Sort of...

ZF are a development partner in the design and validation process. They know what parameters the transmission is operating within, because they are tasked with providing a transmission to operate within those parameters. But those parameters also include the service and maintenance conditions specified by BMW for that transmission in the vehicle specified. Basically ZF knew what they were getting into.

But effectively, yes you're right - BMW set the bar.
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This is approaching the point of ridiculousness.

I'm having a lot of difficult separating the actual informed information from the bickering.

You've both made your views clear, lets move on.
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This is approaching the point of ridiculousness.

I'm having a lot of difficult separating the actual informed information from the bickering.

You've both made your views clear, lets move on.
The definitive answer was already provided. BMW states the transmission fluid should be changed every 100K miles. This isn't my opinion. This isn't some mechanics opinion. This is BMW's specification.

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This is approaching the point of ridiculousness.

I'm having a lot of difficult separating the actual informed information from the bickering.

You've both made your views clear, lets move on.
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Might doesn't make right. You can post your position a thousand times. You can scream and throw a tantrum, stomp your feet and threaten to run away. A flawed position is not going to be accepted.

I'm done, you are in too deep. The desperation is yours. You can do nothing but continue to be defensive and that never works.
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Might doesn't make right. You can post your position a thousand times. You can scream and throw a tantrum, stomp your feet and threaten to run away. A flawed position is not going to be accepted.
Which is exactly why I do not accept JCL position. It's been shown BMW recommends a transmission fluid change at 100K mile intervals.

With that said I'm willing to keep an open mind. If JCL can provide data to support his argument I am willing to review it and, depending on what it says, change my mind. Until then it's a wives tale. He can repeat it ad nauseum but, as you said, it will not make it true.

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I'm done, you are in too deep. The desperation is yours. You can do nothing but continue to be defensive and that never works.
What defense? I have nothing to defend. I'm not making any statement. I am merely asking someone to support their statement. A statement which is directly at odds with BMW's published service schedule. Given this why do you find such a request unreasonable?
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