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Random M54 Misfire on Random Cold Start checklist...PROBABLY SOLVED
UPDATE: CODES POSTED 3/29/16 on Page 3!!!
UPDATE #2: Maintenance performed on 4/18/16 - Marking Thread title to "probably solved" as it looks like probably the times it has happened have been most likely my own error - Thought I'd throw up a thread for this although I have yet to scan the X with DIS (will do so in the next day or two) - Second time in a year that upon first cold start in the morning leaving for work, while I normally wait for the high idle to die down a bit before I start driving, I start to feel a bit of vibration in the car, then some sputtering under the hood giving a misfire, then SES light is on, car runs like crap - Last time it happened I drove 5 mins down the road to Panera to get coffee, turned off the X, came back out, started up and 100% fine, no SES and running perfectly - This time I went to the end of my driveway, turned it off, and restarted the X, running perfectly fine from there on out -Last time I scanned it looked like a few misfire codes, nothing else crazy, but I just cleared them and ignored it to see if it happened again (10 months ago) There is currently 82k miles on the X, it had about 1/4 tank in it today, always at Shell (93) stations but I only fill up once every 3 weeks or so, maintenance items completed to date since I've taken ownership: -Plugs replaced with NGK's 2 years ago -DISA rebuild kit from GAS with new seal -Cleaned throttle body last year after CCV job while it was out -Lower intake elbow -Have an AFE intake with Dry filter and that was last cleaned last year I run Techron through the tank every 6 months or so, along with Lucas UCL when I can. I have a Mahle fuel filter on my workbench waiting to go in, and an oil change to do. Battery is a 3.8 year old Bosch 900 CCA from Pep Boys that the PO put in before he sold the X, no charging issues. Any thoughts? I may take to my local indy who has Autologic to diagnose, with the cold weather coming I may have them perform my winter maintenance and solve this issue so I'm not worrying about it.
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2018 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins 68RFE 19k miles -Bright White/Black - Big Horn Sport - Crew Cab Short Bed 2013 X5 35D (CEO's) - Born on 5/17/2013 - 82k miles - Alpine White/Cinnamon Brown/Premium Pkg, Sport Activity/Premium Pkg and Sound/20" Style 214/Running Boards Last edited by Ricky Bobby; 04-18-2016 at 10:18 AM. |
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Is it a random misfire or cylinder specific? Coils can give up the ghost at this age/mileage sometimes.
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id say coils but this was the start of my problems when my fuel pump went..
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Check this thread over on E46fanatics: Cold weather misfires and CEL, common issues $50 fix! - E46Fanatics
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Thanks for the link to E46F, I will check it out. Wouldn't a vaccuum leak happen more often however with the misfire? I changed that lower intake elbow so thats not it, but i'm not discounting a vaccuum leak. And probably worst case scenario I'm thinking fuel pump but I'd think that would happen more often as well.
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On first blush, sounds like a vacuum leak to me, RB. I had the same problem once and found I had a very small crack in my intake boot, as well as a cracked line from the SAP to the intake manifold. I'm sure lots of others can share their experience as well.
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I had similar issue a few months after replacing the intake elbow and it turned out to be some of the related vacuum hoses and a cracked vacuum fitting. As the engine transitioned off cold start, it would stumble. Once fully warmed up, it ran better, but still with a bit of a rough idle. I agree with crystalworks on the coils too. My two replacements came at 124,000 miles on the e53, but my wife's e46 had three go bad at 100,000 miles.
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^When I last had the intake elbow those 2 hoses and the fitting looked ok on reinstall, I'll give those a look, Gary what was your cracked vaccuum hose from the SAP to the manifold so I can look at that too?
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^ In a conference call with the Fatherland ATM, but I'll get you the details ASAP.
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The line I replaced is #3 and #4 in the drawing. You'll most likely need to remove the Cabin Air Filter Housing to get to the hose connection on the back of the intake manifold.
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