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Old 02-21-2017, 09:39 PM
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HELP! Broken Door Handle and NO POWER



I know there are some other posts on this but not finding a very definitive answer.

AAA won't come out they are saying roads are too dangerous. What a crock so I guess they just leave people stranded. Cool.

Anyway I need to MacGyver my way in the driver door handle broke off and wasn't opening the door anyway with the door unlocked. I can move the lever with a screwdriver and dried hitting it with the hairdryer for over an hour NO GO.

Unfortunately all other doors are locked and the battery is completely dead.

I heard you can hook a jump pack to the positive lead of the starter and a ground to the brake (caliper?) like in this video of a 3.0:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veh1eGTWZ7M

Is the starter in the same location on the 4.4i? I can't really tell but looks like inside driver side frame rail towards the firewall? i should be able to get under the truck even tho its buried in snow. Won't be easy to jack it up tho...

Any other positive lead I could use?
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Old 02-21-2017, 09:55 PM
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Good day,

Well, maybe not yet in your case... Ummmmmm... If this was an E34, I could tell you a super quick and easy way to pop the hood lock and hook up the leads to the terminals in the engine bay... So, unless I actually come up with something, I'm wasting your time...

Hmmmmmm... as luck would have it, I have the 540i6 today at work...

I do know the starter on the 4.4L is on the lower pass side of the motor... not too bad to get to if you had some help to hold the light... If you had some time to kill, you could hook up the 10A battery charger long enough to pop the locks with the remote...

we'll deal with the door handle tomorrow when it's, ummmmmmmm... Warmer?

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Old 02-21-2017, 10:21 PM
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crud

I just took a look on the driver side and couldn't find anything so what you are saying makes sense.

If anyone has a pic or something that would be really helpful. Unfortunately the passenger side is pretty buried in snow right now so I will have to dig it out.

All I have here are some trickle chargers I think that they are only a couple amps at most. I'm not sure my battery is actually dead I do have a battery brain cutoff switch on the battery it may have just shut the battery off. Unfortunately the remote is in the car and my spare is at home about 200 miles away Normally not a problem since I can just open the driver door manually (until now).

Guessing the trickle chargers won't supply enough amps to get the FOB working (guessing ECU has to be running, etc). I may have a long pair of jumper cables tho so maybe i could get a jump that way.

Sucks. Maybe AAA can come out tomorrow and bust in some other way...
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Ahhhhhhhh... I was looking for a picture, but I didn't get any when I did the rebuild of 4... It is really difficult to get to the starter with the reinforcement plate in the way too... Possible, but I would be cautious about jumper cables...

Okay... Thinking... one sec...

You said the drivers door is not locked...... But wasn't opening the door regardless... get a flashlight and look in there... You may need to invent a hook strong enough to move the release lever... I wish I had a picture of that... (gotta put that on my to-do list)... I think the door handle broke on the first pull... That is why it wasn't opening the door with it unlocked... then the rest of the handle gave way and came off the X in your hands...
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can you reach in with a pair of long nose pliers to the point where the rear of the handle attaches to the door carrier (the Aluminum thing just forward of the lock) and pull it out toward you?

Basically doing what the door handle would do if it did not fall off.
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http://static.schmiedmann.dk/Product..._27872_big.jpg

Not sure this will help, but fingers crossed... I stole this picture from google... I'll delete it after we350z gets in his X... Coat hanger looped to pull on the yellow area... It is above the yellow spring... Hard to see... kinda sideways...

Where the bolt is in this picture...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Hte9gSLpisI/maxresdefault.jpg

Let me know if you don't see them...

Is the door lock plunger in the door panel up?
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can you reach in with a pair of long nose pliers to the point where the rear of the handle attaches to the door carrier (the Aluminum thing just forward of the lock) and pull it out toward you?

Basically doing what the door handle would do if it did not fall off.

Also, if you unlocked that door, can't you unlock all doors and open one of the others? Sorry if these are stupid ideas.
This is a good idea if you get the charger hooked up to the starter... No need for the remote inside the X... Wait... You have the key, right?!
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I just replaced both front door handle carriers over the weekend, so here are some photos from the driver's side, so you can see what is behind the door.

They are all oriented right side up, and taken from your viewpoint on the outside of the door.

The second photo, with the voltage detector pointing at the hook shows the thing you should grab with pliers (or if the hook is still there, even a piece of rope should do).

The 3rd and 4th photos show the hook thing when it is pulled out as far as it should come. So if you have not pulled it that far, you should be able to. If you pull it that far and the door does not open, then something has broken inside to prevent that.
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And if that does not work for some reason, here's a slightly more desperate approach ...

Use the long nose pliers to pull the rubber piece surrounding that hook thing out all the way. Remove it to get yourself some clearance.

That black cable sheath clearly shown in the 4th photo is the thing that carries the cable that actually pulls the door latch open. With the rubber piece removed, you may be able to sneak a slotted screwdriver through the hole to hit that cable sheath and press as hard as you can to try to pop the latch.

Or if that does not work, maybe a coat hanger going straight down through the hole made by removing the rubber piece would allow you to grab onto the thing the cable pulls and pull it directly. More finesse required than the previous approaches.
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i think it was already partially broken for some time it was getting to the point where I really had to thrust it to get the door open.

That being said I can still move the plastic piece that it sheared off of with a pair of screwdrivers it makes a click but doesn't release the latch.

Tried screwing with the hood latch but that isn't so easy either. The passenger side is easy enough but can't say the same for the driver side. Would need to pull out the kidney grille remove the protective plastic somehow and fit a tool in there without a visual. Pain in the ass.

I'm hoping the AAA guy can get in or my remote will reconnect the battery.
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