Very bad day

Jeadiex5 · #1 01-22-2018, 08:10 PM

I need some advice. I have what was a flawless, low mileage (76000) 2006 x5 3L. A few weeks ago the oil separator froze up when it was sub zero and destroyed the engine. We thought it was salvageable at first but today found out I am looking at a $5000 bill to replace with a used engine. Question is.....is it worth it first of all? Second, anyone know in the states where to get a good used engine and not get screwed? What's the car worth to sell as a parts car? Just don't know what to do. Suggestions?

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Overboost · #2 01-22-2018, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeadiex5

I need some advice. I have what was a flawless, low mileage (76000) 2006 x5 3L. A few weeks ago the oil separator froze up when it was sub zero and destroyed the engine. We thought it was salvageable at first but today found out I am looking at a $5000 bill to replace with a used engine. Question is.....is it worth it first of all? Second, anyone know in the states where to get a good used engine and not get screwed? What's the car worth to sell as a parts car? Just don't know what to do. Suggestions?

Are you sure the engine has been destroyed? The frozen CCV will pump oil into the intake and unless the rods are bent, it should be salvageable. Pull the spark plugs and crank the engine over to purge the oil from the cylinders and then run a compression check. If it checks out, put the plugs back in and start the car. You will have a lot of smoke until the oil gets burned out of the exhaust but a couple hours of driving should do the trick. Here is a link to some guys that have had the same issue and none of them needed an engine. If it all works out, you should think about the cold weather CCV or at least cleaning out the mayo on the one you have so it doesn't freeze again. The 2018 ice age is wreaking havoc on the poorly designed BMW CCV system.

Frozen CCV failure, do I need a new engine? - E46Fanatics

Jeadiex5 · #3 01-22-2018, 08:46 PM

I'm told it won't hold coolant. They think block is cracked. They did get it to run but coolant was gone quickly. They originally thought it was repairable and I could have lived with a $2000 bill....$5000...????

Overboost · #4 01-22-2018, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeadiex5

I'm told it won't hold coolant. They think block is cracked. They did get it to run but coolant was gone quickly. They originally thought it was repairable and I could have lived with a $2000 bill....$5000...????

I guess it could have lifted the cylinder head and perforating the head gasket but a cracked block would be extreme. How long did you drive it when it started blowing smoke out of the exhaust?

upallnight · #5 01-22-2018, 09:12 PM

If you are doing the work yourself, than fix it. If you are relying on a shop to do the swap than part it.

Jeadiex5 · #6 01-22-2018, 09:14 PM

It died almost instantly. Maybe 20 seconds of driving. Said it may be a warped head. How would one know if it's just a head gasket or a warped head?

Overboost · #7 01-22-2018, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeadiex5

It died almost instantly. Maybe 20 seconds of driving. Said it may be a warped head. How would one know if it's just a head gasket or a warped head?

Only excessive heat will warp the head. Not the case here. I could believe a head gasket. Either way, that is not an entire engine. One of our members burned one of his exhaust valves and did his cylinder head rebuild last weekend for a few hundred bucks. As upallnight points out, if you are at the mercy of an auto repair facility, you are at a disadvantage.

PropellerHead · #8 01-22-2018, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeadiex5

I could have lived with a $2000 bill....$5000...????

Please understand I am being completely objective about the low level math, but just as subjective on the emotional decision about it.

You have before you a $3000 decision. That is, you were at peace with $2k. And at worry with $5k. The difference then, is $3k.

Do you like this car for $3k?
If you do, can you get another for $3k? (after parting out, etc)

Any other car on which you spend $3k+ has to (OK, *should*) allow the consideration of the non-objective (emotional) elements of your decision.

Do you like the E53?
Have you an emotional connection to this one in particular*?
Have you bled actual blood into, onto, or nearby this E53?
Did this vehicle miraculously help save you or your family from some malady that would otherwise change your life? (mine did)
*I ask this cause people think I am an idiot for restoring my 1975 2002. But you see, I saw my first boobies in that car. And those boobies- if I do say so- were outstanding. They're still in the bank and that was like 30 YEARS ago.

Now, I should share- these are *my* emotional connections. Because they're terribly unique, everyone gets to use emotions however they want. I have buddies who own more cars in a year than I have in 30. Good on 'em. I find what I like in the passenger seat of my 2002 and I marry it. I mean.. I keep the 2002.

Bottom line: It's your $3000. It's your E53. Sure, many of us would say that $3000 for an E53 with a solid motor and head isn't bad. But I will admit that my perspective is a bit skewed after the recent head work I had done.

Fifty150hs · #9 01-22-2018, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PropellerHead

Please understand I am being completely objective about the low level math, but just as subjective on the emotional decision about it.

You have before you a $3000 decision. That is, you were at peace with $2k. And at worry with $5k. The difference then, is $3k.

Do you like this car for $3k?
If you do, can you get another for $3k? (after parting out, etc)

Any other car on which you spend $3k+ has to (OK, *should*) allow the consideration of the non-objective (emotional) elements of your decision.

Do you like the E53?
Have you an emotional connection to this one in particular*?
Have you bled actual blood into, onto, or nearby this E53?
Did this vehicle miraculously help save you or your family from some malady that would otherwise change your life? (mine did)
*I ask this cause people think I am an idiot for restoring my 1975 2002. But you see, I saw my first boobies in that car. And those boobies- if I do say so- were outstanding. They're still in the bank and that was like 30 YEARS ago.

Now, I should share- these are *my* emotional connections. Because they're terribly unique, everyone gets to use emotions however they want. I have buddies who own more cars in a year than I have in 30. Good on 'em. I find what I like in the passenger seat of my 2002 and I marry it. I mean.. I keep the 2002.

Bottom line: It's your $3000. It's your E53. Sure, many of us would say that $3000 for an E53 with a solid motor and head isn't bad. But I will admit that my perspective is a bit skewed after the recent head work I had done.

Wish I could afford that!

Jeadiex5 · #10 01-22-2018, 10:06 PM

Interesting take, and thank you. It does put it into perspective. I have only had the car 6 months and do like it alot....however, this was going to be the car I give my son next year....will I be able to trust it again? How do I know it won't happen again? To add insult to injury, while at the shop, a customer in a Toyota backed into it and ruined the door. Their insurance will pay but still...just very frustrating. In your opinion, is that car worth $5000 additional over the 10k I bought it for with a replaced used engine?

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