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Old 08-08-2019, 10:51 PM
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Window regulator brand quality

I am getting good at fixing these regulators. But on my third in the past 12 months, finally I am not getting away with replacing clips for $20. This one broke the clips but then the cable got all twisted and chewed up too.



I am curious -- is it worth trying to get away with non-BMW part? Pelican has the one I need (rear left) for $191, but URO is only $91. Anyone think that it is worth it? I hope to keep this car for 3-5 more years, so I do not want to fix it again. Any other brands worth considering?



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From my google-fu, the internets seem to think Dorman is OK but URO is crap.
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From my google-fu, the internets seem to think Dorman is OK but URO is crap.

FWIW - My front driver side URO has been flawless for over 3 years and counting, but I may be lucky on that one. Need to do the other 3 windows soon - may give Dorman a go if I can find it.
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Thanks for the input. Looks like Dorman is actually cheaper. I found URO for $75 on ECS, but Dorman is $52 on amazon.
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Thanks for the heads up on the Dorman regulators from Amazon! I just order my front passenger regulator as well as both rear regulators.

Don't forget to get the clips for the regulators! Front takes 2 on each side and rear takes 1 on each side. Note that the clips for the fronts are different than those from the rear
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You mean the sliders or the plastic clips that hold the windows to the sliders?



I keep a stock of the plastic clips now, but I was under the impression they were the same front and rear. This is my first rear that has broken.
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At least for my 2001 3.0i, probably for all ...

The rear (51-35-7-011-680) and front (51-33-8-254-781) window clips are indeed different.

Comparing one vs. the other, the little step at the bottom of the clip that the bottom of the window glass sits on is about 4.5mm higher for the rear clips vs. the front clips. Other than that and color, they appear identical. And the rears cost 4-5x what the front ones do. ???

So if you try to use a front clip on a rear window, it will fit, but the bottom of the glass won't be sitting on that little ledge like it should be. Instead it will have 4.5mm of air in that space, meaning more of the load is carried by the through-hole part of the clip. Should probably work for a while, and may even outlast the next thing to break on the window assembly.

I recently had a rear regulator failure and it was not too surprising when the pretty new BMW rear window clip cracked upon removal (had been solid until then). Not having any spare rear ones in stock, but with plenty of front ones, I glued a 4-4.5 mm spacer in there to make it work without having to make a special order for this one part.

BTW, with many decades of fixing my own cars and currently with 6 cars in my family, I have yet to have a single window regulator failure of any type on any of these cars. But I have had every one of the regulators on my 2001 X5 fail within about 4 years of ownership. Just bad luck, I guess.
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BTW, with many decades of fixing my own cars and currently with 6 cars in my family, I have yet to have a single window regulator failure of any type on any of these cars. But I have had every one of the regulators on my 2001 X5 fail within about 4 years of ownership. Just bad luck, I guess.

This is absolutely true. The X5 is the only car that I had ever owned that requires periodic window regulators replacements
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Early 2000's VWs are pretty much the same - and throw in funky door lock failures for good measure...

(and probaly the same for that same generation of Audi cars...)
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