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Old 01-19-2020, 04:22 AM
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Not sure but I had read that removing the cap on the passenger side will allow you to drill a hole and add a hidden lock cylinder (future help) but going with the driver's door lock is now your surest option.

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To OldSkewel:

You said the car battery is fine...so was the car double locked prior to you being locked out? I ask because if you have been inserting things inside the cabin...the IMS (interior motion sensor) should have set things off. So if the IMS hasn't activated...is the red clown nose flashing (the status LED below the interior rear view mirror)?

If the red LED isn't flashing...it means DWA (anti-theft alarm siren system) hasn't been activated...or the car's battery is dead and/or the alarm siren's internal battery is also dead since it hasn't sounded off when things were inserted inside the cabin.

In order for the the "secret" interior UNLOCK procedure to work when the car has been double locked...requires that the car's battery is charged because the FZV (central locking) to work...requires electrical power. And to others reading this...anything 1999-back...when double locked...the car is LOCKED and will require a working key to unlock the car...you must have a 2000-up BMW to unlock a double-locked BMW using the procedure below but you MUST also have electrical power. They central lock/unlock button must have power to work:
  1. Press the interior central locking button (once)
  2. Pull TWICE on an interior door handle


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Just to make a correction to the MANUAL UNLOCK procedure that was mentioned earlier in this thread...DO NOT pull up & hold on the door handle when trying to MANUALLY unlock the door. Those instructions to pull & hold is for the prior generation e32/e34/e36 BMW models. The e38/e39/e46/e53 manual unlock procedure is just to (see text highlighted in red box from the owners manual below):
  1. Insert key into driver's door lock cylinder
  2. Turn key CCW (counter clockewise) 90° to the manual unlock position. If you only turn the key 45°, you're only turning to the electrically actuated key positions to lock or unlock the vehicle.

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To OldSkewel:

You said the car battery is fine...so was the car double locked prior to you being locked out? I ask because if you have been inserting things inside the cabin...the IMS (interior motion sensor) should have set things off. So if the IMS hasn't activated...is the red clown nose flashing (the status LED below the interior rear view mirror)?
Thanks for carefully reading my long post.

Battery is definitely fine. Relatively new, no problems. Clown nose still flashing red as it should. Orange LED next to the P on the shifter still illuminated.

If it would give good info, I can try bumping or jacking the car up to set off the motion sensor alarm.

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In order for the the "secret" interior UNLOCK procedure to work when the car has been double locked...requires that the car's battery is charged because the FZV (central locking) to work...requires electrical power. And to others reading this...anything 1999-back...when double locked...the car is LOCKED and will require a working key to unlock the car...you must have a 2000-up BMW to unlock a double-locked BMW using the procedure below but you MUST also have electrical power. They central lock/unlock button must have power to work:
  1. Press the interior central locking button (once)
  2. Pull TWICE on an interior door handle
Mine is a MY2001, so that method *should* work, it seems.

Since the key fobs were not working, the car was locked (as done all the time when fobs are not working) using the key in the door lock, automatically locking all four doors and starting the clown nose blinking.

Not happy to hear that this is the "secret" method. Is it the same one handed out by UCrewX5 by secret courier and handshake? Was hoping for something different from UCrewX5 or someone who got the method from him at some point over the years.

Regarding the pressing of the central console lock/unlock button ... What exactly should happen when it is properly pressed, if things are going according to this plan? Should I hear anything click, clunk, see anything light up, etc.? I assume the doors themselves will not show any activity, otherwise the instructions would be to pull open the outer door handle. Right?

I tried it a few times, as I said, not sure I was pressing it fully, and not getting any sort of confirmation that it had been pressed (and am in a quiet area, so I would hear a click if it happened). Since I tried a few times, I'm guessing the requirement to hit the button once (or I assume an odd number vs. even number of times) was met, but will try more carefully next time.

Any other ideas or finer points in the method?

Does the center console button sound like it's the UCrewX5 secret method? I've been waiting to hear on that before doing the really difficult or destructive approaches.
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I may get a chance to look into this again this weekend.

I am hoping to be proven wrong, but so far I have concluded that the "secret" method is the one widely published on this site, including a few posts above by Qsilver7. My wrong belief/hope that an alternative method existed made it harder.

Simple questions I still don't have definite answers to, so please help if you know:

1. In that method, do you press and release (one time) that central locking button, and then double-pull an inside door handle? Or do you press and hold that central button down while at the same time double-pulling the handle?

2. Should the alarm go off when I poke a rod through into the car? If no alarm goes off, does that indicate something is wrong, meaning the secret method may not work (it does not appear to be working)?

3. When I press and release (one time) that central locking button, should anything at all happen? Click? Clunk? Beep? Change in flashing alarm light? Continued silence?

==================== EDIT ==============
EDITED now with answers after I broke in and did the simple tests. This may not be how it is supposed to work, but it is what happened on my car, having been locked with the key in the door lock, not locked using the remote.
#1 - both options tried. neither one worked.
#2 - no alarm went off, even reaching in through the fully open window with my full open. Door had been locked via the door lock actuator (not remote), clown nose was flashing.
#3 - got no sound at all, nothing at all seemed to happen when pressing that button.

And in general that method failed completely for me. I read how it has worked for others, so I'm sure it's valid. Maybe there is some other state my car is in due to locking via the door vs. remote that makes it different vs. the successful reports.
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Thanks for all the useful answers, people.

No need for more entertainment, I'm in. Took about 5 minutes once I figured out what to do and forged ahead without all the distractions of hoping for secret methods and learning about shoe lace technology.

BTW, the worst part of all this is now knowing how ridiculous BMW's anti-theft system is. A serious hassle for BMW owners getting themselves locked out. Ignorant thieves would just break a window. Knowledgeable thieves could easily be inside within 3 minutes, considering if I did it the first time in 5, figuring it out as I went.
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