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Old 08-04-2022, 03:34 PM
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... As I do not have the original radio, I cannot make changes to the clock on the dash either, can this also be set up using one of these software people talk about when connected to a laptop?
I don't think so... Pretty sure the only way to access the OBC functions are:
  • Factory MID (one from a salvage yard, plugged into the truck connector, will work).
  • Factory NAV. (too hard to retro-fit!).
  • Android head-unit with the iBus app and Resler I-Bus interface.
If anyone knows of another way, speak up now.
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I don't think so... Pretty sure the only way to access the OBC functions are:
  • Factory MID (one from a salvage yard, plugged into the truck connector, will work).
  • Factory NAV. (too hard to retro-fit!).
  • Android head-unit with the iBus app and Resler I-Bus interface.
If anyone knows of another way, speak up now.

Mate, you are talking a strange language to me here


We can skip number two, I don't like to do hard anymore,it makes my head hurt more than usual


Number three sounds like a thing I could work with if I knew WTF you were talking about .

My Android unit does use a bus interface as it works the steering wheel controls in that respect. It is an XTrons brand that is commonly used in BMW as a replacement.
So my friend from a little further south, please enlighten me about these things of which you speak?


Cheers mate, Jeff
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Old 08-04-2022, 09:33 PM
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Not sure it's whats causing your issue, but have to resync the keys after you change the battery


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ4BVuTL9fI



I followed this and I now have the key working great. Here was me thinking that it was just totally FUBAR, but no...resync and good as gold.


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Mate, you are talking a strange language to me here


We can skip number two, I don't like to do hard anymore,it makes my head hurt more than usual


Number three sounds like a thing I could work with if I knew WTF you were talking about .

My Android unit does use a bus interface as it works the steering wheel controls in that respect. It is an XTrons brand that is commonly used in BMW as a replacement.
So my friend from a little further south, please enlighten me about these things of which you speak?


Cheers mate, Jeff
OK, it's really quite simple...

What you called a "radio" was actually a "Multi-Function Information Display" (aka MID) - which is a display unit with some buttons. It has no audio in it - the radio itself is either in the CD Player above the MID (in the case of Business or Professional CD systems) or in the boot/trunk (commonly in the USA).

But no matter, since you already have an Andoid head unit - the Xtrons. There is a CANbus adapter included with this unit so the steering wheel controls work.

The "I-Bus" unit I'm referring to is another after-market solution. First is an app for your Android Head Unit that replaces all the old MID "Board Computer" (BC) functions you now lack. This app is call the I-Bus app: -

https://www.ibus-app.de/index_en.html

Secondly, to allow the I-Bus app to communicate with the various systems in the car (mainly the dash or cluster) you also need an i-bus connection, via a USB device called a Resler i-bus interface: -

Resler IBUS Interface

You can get it all from one supplier: -

https://shop.ibus-app.de/en/shop/?p=1

Since you already have the Android HU, it's worth adding the I-Bus app and interface and then you will have full acccess to all the car's BC functions (and more).
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Old 08-05-2022, 08:20 AM
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Thx Wayne,



Looked it all up, completely understand what you are saying now and this idea looks like the ducks guts as far as solving the problems on the dash readout and for other little adjustments, that is one sweet unit.


Now, after reading the whole data sheet I find I have one problem. I hve a PX3 version and they will not guarantee that it works with the Unit...bloody hell. So now I need to think about a new head unit and these only seem to work with Xtrons PB and PQ series and a brand I have not seen advertised.


Now I am considering a new head unit, really do not need the cd/dvd player, the screen angle is hopeless in sunshine and the wifi connection is a POS. The update wil be a larger screen at a more upright angle with both 3g and 4g capability. I can check with Ibus people about suitability before I buy it.


So thank you, great find and I have saved the links in my BMW folder.
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I followed this and I now have the key working great. Here was me thinking that it was just totally FUBAR, but no...resync and good as gold.


Thank you
Glad you got it sorted. Probably my first successful helping post here!
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Hi Wayne, I would really like to do something about getting some diagnostic software to use on my X5. I know you use a certain flavour of sorts and I think from memory you connect through a laptop. That would be perfect for me as I have a spare one sitting around doing the proverbial 5/8ths of FA. It is an Intel I7 with 8gb ram and 1Tb hdd, Win10 and all USB 3 slots. I have no idea what the software requirements are, but this should meet the needs I would hope.


Can you tell me what you know and what you use please?


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Hey Jeff,

I use INPA for most of what I do - it covers the basics really well and only once or twice in my seven plus years of ownership have I needed somethng else.

I use an old IBM ThinkPad with Windpows XP (but I understand that Windows 7/10 etc. is also supported).

I use this OBD adapter: -



http://www.one-stop-electronics.com/...&product_id=22

This setup covers the standard BMW tools (INPA, NCSExpert, etc.) - not sure if it works with ISTA P/ISTA D, due to the lack of D-CAN but it should (since the e53 doesn't support D-CAN anyway).

I also use this laptop and adapter for DIS v44- DIS uses the same EDIABAS comms interface (in the DIS VM I use anyway). DIS was a mission to get running and is fussy to use but it does do a few things not possible in INPA (like reseting the oil wear adaptations on the VTG - transfer case).

On another Windows XP laptop I use BMW Scanner (PA Soft 1.4) - which uses a different OBD adapter: -



I use this on it's own laptop (actually a Windows XP VM on a Macbook!) since it's interface driver clashes badly with the FTDI driver for the K-Line adapter above - they won't co-exist on the same laptop (without swapping drivers in and out).

I use PA Soft for simple programming tasks that don't warrant getting NCSEpert (and NCSDummy) out for. But I don't use it much...

I'm guessing that by now your noodle is well baked, so I'll shut up - except to say maybe start with PA Soft - it's easy to get set up, does most of the simple programming tasks (safely!) and will report most diagnostic/error codes.

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Hey Jeff,
I'm guessing that by now your noodle is well baked, so I'll shut up - except to say maybe start with PA Soft - it's easy to get set up, does most of the simple programming tasks (safely!) and will report most diagnostic/error codes.

Good luck!

You're not wrong there mate . It is a good starting point and good advice with pictures and links. Just a point of curiosity, what cable is used on the first adapter image? That would be the one KK for the INPA software?



They always help. I will start down this track first and ease my tired brain into it first LoL.


Thank you so much for the cross channel brotherhood, despite my countries poor attitude of late.

I'm glad we people have more sense than the immoral pollies we let run us!


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You're not wrong there mate . It is a good starting point and good advice with pictures and links. Just a point of curiosity, what cable is used on the first adapter image? That would be the one KK for the INPA software?
Any USB-A to USB-B cable will work. One of these: -



https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/...cable-cou2pc02

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Thank you so much for the cross channel brotherhood, despite my countries poor attitude of late.

I'm glad we people have more sense than the immoral pollies we let run us!


Jeff
Absolutely - the X5 brotherhood has no borders!
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