DON'T TRY AT HOME, attempt to use Arm64-based laptop for X5 diagnosis

[workingonit]

Originally Posted by c-bass

What's your end goal here?

If it's to have a diagnostic laptop and use INPA/ISTA etc then make just your life easier and use a windows laptop. Pretty much anything from the last 20 years will work.

I like an interesting project as much as the next guy but that's once I already have a working setup.

I've wanted INPA/ISTA since I first read of them, months before I traded/swapped for my X5, and even bought my Foxwell 5-6 months before the trade. I like to have tools on hand before I need them. Though the Foxwell is good, others have said that it's limited in scope, and INPA/ISTA (plus others) are the way to go, for more detailed data.

Originally, I wanted to use my broken 6gb laptop, but Geek Squad wanted $700+ to repair it, so I tried to budget a cheaper laptop to use just for the X5. Or talk my wife into upgrading, and give me her 4gb laptop.

I saw a brand-new laptop for 64% off, for Black Friday, and thought it was my best shot to get a budget laptop, considering my retired, low income status, but I encountered unexpected problems since the programs I downloaded were bad, so now, maybe, I can get the "BMW Standard Tools" suite, from a better source, as they supposedly contain these programs:

Inpa 5.0.6
EDIABAS 7.3.0
Bluetooth Activation Tool 1.0.0
BMW Coding Tool 2.5.0
FindECU 1.1
NcsDummy 0.6.10
NcsExpert (English menus & NCS Dummy) 4.0.1
Tool32 4.0.3
WinKFP 5.3.1
Integrated SP-DATEN v67.1,

according to this post on Bimmerfest
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/u...tools.1418253/,

and could be downloaded from here:
https://github.com/gushmazuko/bmw-advanced-tools

which I would've tried (sad refrain, here) on my wife's Windows 10 laptop, if she were to trade it for my new Windows 11 laptop; but since I got her's working again, she said no to the trade. I'm hesitant to download from this new source, having been bitten from github on my desktop, a year ago.

I've just now removed the bad, previously-downloaded "BMW Standard Tools" (from another source, either from Bimmerfest or E46 Fanatics, that contained a Trojan, and messed up some files) from my new laptop, and have since tried to stay with expanded Android apps (which I've used before) on my laptop instead of puny tablet. Problem there was the new laptop can't get the program (Windows Subsystem for Android) from Microsoft, due to having 1/2 of the required RAM needed.

So, I went off into a rabbit hole to use my desktop remotely, to get the Android apps running on it, and the laptop to be used for input and remote display. Above my head, so I'm pulling the plug on this project, and I'll wait until the wife's laptop needs me to unfreeze the keyboard (again). At that time, I'll swap laptops, and get the "BMW Standard Tools" installed on it. I may never need to use them, though, but so many seem to swear by them, I figure they work better than the Foxwell I'm using. You can never get too much data.

[c-bass]

Originally Posted by workingonit

I've wanted INPA/ISTA since I first read of them, months before I traded/swapped for my X5, and even bought my Foxwell 5-6 months before the trade. I like to have tools on hand before I need them. Though the Foxwell is good, others have said that it's limited in scope, and INPA/ISTA (plus others) are the way to go, for more detailed data.

Originally, I wanted to use my broken 6gb laptop, but Geek Squad wanted $700+ to repair it, so I tried to budget a cheaper laptop to use just for the X5. Or talk my wife into upgrading, and give me her 4gb laptop.

I saw a brand-new laptop for 64% off, for Black Friday, and thought it was my best shot to get a budget laptop, considering my retired, low income status, but I encountered unexpected problems since the programs I downloaded were bad, so now, maybe, I can get the "BMW Standard Tools" suite, from a better source, as they supposedly contain these programs:

Inpa 5.0.6
EDIABAS 7.3.0
Bluetooth Activation Tool 1.0.0
BMW Coding Tool 2.5.0
FindECU 1.1
NcsDummy 0.6.10
NcsExpert (English menus & NCS Dummy) 4.0.1
Tool32 4.0.3
WinKFP 5.3.1
Integrated SP-DATEN v67.1,

according to this post on Bimmerfest
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/u...tools.1418253/,

and could be downloaded from here:
https://github.com/gushmazuko/bmw-advanced-tools

which I would've tried (sad refrain, here) on my wife's Windows 10 laptop, if she were to trade it for my new Windows 11 laptop; but since I got her's working again, she said no to the trade. I'm hesitant to download from this new source, having been bitten from github on my desktop, a year ago.

I've just now removed the bad, previously-downloaded "BMW Standard Tools" (from another source, either from Bimmerfest or E46 Fanatics, that contained a Trojan, and messed up some files) from my new laptop, and have since tried to stay with expanded Android apps (which I've used before) on my laptop instead of puny tablet. Problem there was the new laptop can't get the program (Windows Subsystem for Android) from Microsoft, due to having 1/2 of the required RAM needed.

So, I went off into a rabbit hole to use my desktop remotely, to get the Android apps running on it, and the laptop to be used for input and remote display. Above my head, so I'm pulling the plug on this project, and I'll wait until the wife's laptop needs me to unfreeze the keyboard (again). At that time, I'll swap laptops, and get the "BMW Standard Tools" installed on it. I may never need to use them, though, but so many seem to swear by them, I figure they work better than the Foxwell I'm using. You can never get too much data.

Ahhh yes, the spiraling that happens when you try to get something "setup quickly" been there done more times than I'd care to admit.

Like nick325 I also have a few "vintage" laptops that I use for my car diagnostics.

I understand you have some budget constraints but if it makes any sense to you I'd be happy to mail you one of my extra laptops if you cover the shipping. All the software is loaded and ready to go, you would just need a USB cable which you can source from Amazon.

You can download the software from https://www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads safe and virus free and I would be more than happy to help you with any installation issues you might have but I'm confident you can get it going with minimal head scratching.

[workingonit]

Originally Posted by c-bass

...I understand you have some budget constraints but if it makes any sense to you I'd be happy to mail you one of my extra laptops if you cover the shipping. All the software is loaded and ready to go, you would just need a USB cable which you can source from Amazon.

You can download the software from https://www.bimmergeeks.net/downloads safe and virus free and I would be more than happy to help you with any installation issues you might have but I'm confident you can get it going with minimal head scratching.

Thanks for your offer, but I'll try for awhile (despite my saying I'm giving up) to get something to work on the new laptop. But, expect a PM from me after a few more disappointing tries....

Actually, I believe I did use the download link you suggested, but the only part of the "BMW Standard Tools" that actually successfully loaded was the "EDIABAS ToolSet 32", all other parts wouldn't open. And I never downloaded the SP-Datens, since I copied the link address to Virus Total, and it detected malware.


After fighting to remove previous malware from this new laptop, I'm not sure if I'd trust it.

[nick325xit 5spd]

Originally Posted by workingonit

Thanks for your offer, but I'll try for awhile (despite my saying I'm giving up) to get something to work on the new laptop. But, expect a PM from me after a few more disappointing tries....

Actually, I believe I did use the download link you suggested, but the only part of the "BMW Standard Tools" that actually successfully loaded was the "EDIABAS ToolSet 32", all other parts wouldn't open. And I never downloaded the SP-Datens, since I copied the link address to Virus Total, and it detected malware.
Attachment 82927

After fighting to remove previous malware from this new laptop, I'm not sure if I'd trust it.

mega is neither trustworthy nor untrustworthy. they'll allow people to upload anything.

[crystalworks]

Originally Posted by workingonit

Thanks for your offer, but I'll try for awhile (despite my saying I'm giving up) to get something to work on the new laptop. But, expect a PM from me after a few more disappointing tries....

Actually, I believe I did use the download link you suggested, but the only part of the "BMW Standard Tools" that actually successfully loaded was the "EDIABAS ToolSet 32", all other parts wouldn't open. And I never downloaded the SP-Datens, since I copied the link address to Virus Total, and it detected malware.

After fighting to remove previous malware from this new laptop, I'm not sure if I'd trust it.

I downloaded mine from a "trustworthy" Mega uploader. Unfortunately after years, he no longer offers the software. I have backups here, but he would update them when new datens or software versions would become available.

Anyway, the point I was going to make. All of these will trigger a flag for trojans or other. I forget exactly what triggers it (maybe Dr.Gini files?), but one of the programs included always come back flagged.

I can send you the versions I have (multiples totaling ~650GB) on a HD. They work on Win10 laptop/desktop as that's what I use them on. A cheap HP i5 Win10 lappy. If I had an FTP setup I'd let you DL directly... but it's been a long time since I set that up and I don't have the time to relearn. Kids, wife, cars, house... etc.

[whodat]

Originally Posted by crystalworks

I downloaded mine from a "trustworthy" Mega uploader. Unfortunately after years, he no longer offers the software. I have backups here, but he would update them when new datens or software versions would become available.

Anyway, the point I was going to make. All of these will trigger a flag for trojans or other. I forget exactly what triggers it (maybe Dr.Gini files?), but one of the programs included always come back flagged.

I can send you the versions I have (multiples totaling ~650GB) on a HD. They work on Win10 laptop/desktop as that's what I use them on. A cheap HP i5 Win10 lappy. If I had an FTP setup I'd let you DL directly... but it's been a long time since I set that up and I don't have the time to relearn. Kids, wife, cars, house... etc.

PM'd