Glow plugs - Which ones

[wpoll]

Here's the old parts and the new box...






As you can see, the old controller is BMW # 12217788327 and as Clavurion already mentioned, the new Beru controller is a GSE102. I assume the old one is also a GSE102 but it is not labelled as such.

If you have a probe camera you may be able to read the numbers on your one in-situ. Or if you have younger eyes than mine!

W.

[Spartan]

Originally Posted by wpoll

Here's the old parts and the new box...






As you can see, the old controller is BMW # 12217788327 and as Clavurion already mentioned, the new Beru controller is a GSE102. I assume the old one is also a GSE102 but it is not labelled as such.

If you have a probe camera you may be able to read the numbers on your one in-situ. Or if you have younger eyes than mine!

W.

Mate, your images are all showing service unavailable. Even some of the earlier pictures are now doing this to, but only the controller related ones.


In words I used on the desert sands..."WTF, I don't see Nothing".


The part number from the Real OEM says the other number but then emphasizes the fact it is a 20 pin plug. The ones I look at have two connections, a single and a 12 pin block.

[Clavurion]

Originally Posted by Spartan

Mate, your images are all showing service unavailable. Even some of the earlier pictures are now doing this to, but only the controller related ones.


In words I used on the desert sands..."WTF, I don't see Nothing".


The part number from the Real OEM says the other number but then emphasizes the fact it is a 20 pin plug. The ones I look at have two connections, a single and a 12 pin block.

The picture problem must be at your end. I'm seeing them normally and I'm exactly at the opposite side of the globe from New Zealand.

Not really following which part number you are referring to?

[wpoll]

Try a different internet connection perhaps...?

As for the glow controller pin count, the BMW #12217788327 (Beru GSE102) has 12 pins on the larger connector.

BMW #12217788327 was "ended" in 08/2005 and BMW #12217801201 seems to be new part number that supercedes it but as such, it should be a direct replacement.

Internet searchs indicate that the newer BMW #12217801201 also has 12 pins.



Where did you see the reference to 20 pins?

[Clavurion]

They are exactly same parts with just updated part number.

https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/par...&q=12217801201

[Spartan]

Well Wayne, I don't know about younger eyes, but phone cameras are damn useful. Especially when they are four lenses to do all sort of jiggery pokery


I finally got a day where I could actually look in without being cooked or drowned. Climate change My Arse! Just ask NASA where the North Pole is now.


Anyways, it is a genuine Beru, vacuum lines covered that number but the top number is 7 801 201 2 the rest on the RHS are the same till the BMW8G4, underneath is 178/06 and lastly 0002151019.


For all intentional purposes it appears the same as yours, apart from the numbers.


Now the 20pin I got from RealOEM, but I may not have selected the correct year, although I always enter the last 7 of my VIN. It showed the glow module and at the end was a triangle with 20 pin marked on it.


So, I am somewhat perplexed by this because I cannot see any reference to pin outs otherwise.



Clavaurion, mate your help is invaluable too , it seems the diesel engine owners are in a strange enigma world in here, but thank god the rest of the car is the same . You were right about that compliance plate, it was an Australian one that must have been fitted when it arrived here.


If the weather holds this weekend and we do not get hailstones, thunder storms and lightning strikes, (100,000 in the last 36hrs) I will start taking things off.


This ceramic grease, it seems to be a bit of a pain in ass to get hold of. What did you use?


My list of parts are a) seal kit, b) 6 x glow plugs, c) 1 x glow module, and ceramic grease. Anything else I need to add to this?


Much appreciated, Jeff

[wpoll]

Makes sense that your '06 has the newer part number - my car was built 02/2005, prior to the 08/2005 part number change.

Re. the ceramic grease, not sure where this is for but if it's the glow plugs, I used a very small amount of nickel anti-seize on the threads only.

Don't forget the gasket for the EGR inlet (from the intercooler outlet pipe) since you need to pull that out when removing the intake manifold. Should be BMW #1617790547 (but check that since your intake might differ from mine!).



And maybe a roll of wide painter's masking tape - to cover the intake ports when the manifold is off - you don't want to drop anything in an intake port!!

[wpoll]

Oh, and you'll need a deep socket, to remove and install the glow plugs. Standard sockets don't fit.

[Spartan]

I have deep sockets, are these deeper than the normal over the counter deep type?



Yes, the recommended grease is Ceramic as most other stuff seems to seal and harden. I have read up on the shear tensions etc, so fingers crossed these are still original and have the correct grease LoL.


Bloody raining again, I swear summer is off on holiday, if its not raining it is 38c and humidity is murder.


Think I might get another fuel filter on the off chance it has picked up a load of crap too. It seems to regular that it starts to fail after three kilometers. Back to that starving for fuel, but idles fine thing.


I did read an article on the modern diesel engine and it is not unusual for the glow plugs to cause this as well, my understanding of them is they are on all the time to ensure there is no unburnt fuel like he old days. I have to admit, it does smell quite stinky lately. Maybe there is some truth in this, seeing I have four failed glow plugs.


Onwards, ever onwards. I hate diesel all over me. LoL

[wpoll]

Normal deep sockets should work fine.

My factory glow plugs appeared to have zero grease of any sort on them at installation (se image above of factory glow plug), as per the original Beru recommendations. Bosch sometime say the same, other times they say to use anti-seize.