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Old 05-08-2024, 06:51 PM
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how to secure the door panel clips ?

Hello,
Long time ago I changed my lock actuator for the Driver Side Door, and I was never able to properly put back the door together, it is still loose as none of the plastic tabs (clips) are secure.Door panel Clips and tried to replace the missing ones
but it is not clear how I am supposed to make it work, do I Slide it From Top to bottom ? or do I push it in and force them?
and which one type of I clips do I need to buy

the Diagram for the Real OEM is too messy, cant tell what clips I should buy and where is each one ?
https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/sho...diagId=51_3820
according to the REALOEM there are two types of clips ?


No. Description Supp. Qty From Up To Part Number Price Notes
22 Clip with washer, natur WEIß X 51418224768 $0.69
23 Clip with seal ring GRAU 6 51418224781 $0.69

for the 23 ones it says 6 of them needed for but for the 22 it doesnt say how many I need. what does X mean for quantity ?

but I am supposed to just first mount them on the metal frame and then Push the Door in them to force them in or do I need to put them on the Door panel first and then Slide it to the Metal Frame?


I have seen plenty of videos ppl take off the Doors but yet I have not seen one that puts it back together, maybe nobody puts back together correctly and once you open it it will be loose forever??

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The grey clips are on the front edge where the door frame has thicker double sheeting. All other clips are the white ones.

When removing first pry out the edges. Then slide the card upwards removing it from the window edge connectors and big center clip at the handle. The center clip usually stays on door side when card is removed. Remove it and install it back on door card. (If the clip doesn't stay on door card but tries to drop, you may secure it with small piece of tape.) Inspect the edge clips on door card and renew if damaged or missing. All those clips should be on door card before installation. When installing slide the top part in groove clips and then push/tap the center and edge clips in. You may need to guide the clips so they are going in the holes on door as the clips have some play on door card.
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Old 05-08-2024, 08:31 PM
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The grey clips are on the front edge where the door frame has thicker double sheeting. All other clips are the white ones.

When removing first pry out the edges. Then slide the card upwards removing it from the window edge connectors and big center clip at the handle. The center clip usually stays on door side when card is removed. Remove it and install it back on door card. (If the clip doesn't stay on door card but tries to drop, you may secure it with small piece of tape.) Inspect the edge clips on door card and renew if damaged or missing. All those clips should be on door card before installation. When installing slide the top part in groove clips and then push/tap the center and edge clips in. You may need to guide the clips so they are going in the holes on door as the clips have some play on door card.
where is Front Edge ? like if we are sitting on driver seat, where would be front ?
do you know how many are supposed to be the white ones? and how many gray ones? (I think Real oem says 6 of the Gray ones...but it says X for the white ones...what is X ?)

where could I buy them in bulk at affordable price?
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Old 05-08-2024, 09:44 PM
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A picture might help. Thanks to cn90...



Pretty sure there should be three white clips at the left side of the above image (ignore the fact that this image shows grey ones!). I also think the RealOEM count of six white clips covers both front door cards.

So three white and eight grey clips per door card.

The location of the large black clip is circled in blue.
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Not for nothing, but every time I remove an E53 door panel, one or more of the plastic brackets - upper, lower, middle, that hold the clips separates from the door card...it usually doesn't break.

I have become quite skilled at gluing them back in place with RTV or gasket maker. I carefully clamp them and let them cure overnight.
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I've removed the panel so many times and with the confusion that followed. I started using Velcro to hold the push clips into place.
Now I just tear the door off the panel when I need to get back there...reinstalling carries much less confusion.
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A picture might help. Thanks to cn90...



Pretty sure there should be three white clips at the left side of the above image (ignore the fact that this image shows grey ones!). I also think the RealOEM count of six white clips covers both front door cards.

So three white and eight grey clips per door card.

The location of the large black clip is circled in blue.
Thank you very much do you have the link to the discussion of this image too ?

22 Clip with washer, natur WEIß X 51418224768 $0.69
23 Clip with seal ring GRAU 6 51418224781 $0.69

Grau I think means gray in German and Weiss means white
So realoem says 6 gray and X white. Not sure why it would say X is that common for real oem to just say X ?

I wonder if there is a real difference between them are they interchangeable?
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I already tried to explain those grey and white clips. On door structure the front (hinge side) part has thicker double sheeting. The grey clips have deeper groove and foam to grip thicker material. The white clips are for normal single sheeting. White clips would not stick on the thicker double sheeting. Grey ones could be used instead of white ones on the thinner single sheeting but the door card would be slightly loose.
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