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TRIFECTA for no discernible reason?
Here's the way my drive went:
Once home, before unpacking the truck, I checked for faults on Torque Pro, which was running. It found no faults.I turned off the engine for a minute, during which I cleared the "non-existent" faults, then restarted the engine. Once again, the key required two turns, and the TRIFECTA remained lit. When the TRIFECTA appeared, on the second turn of the key at the gas station, I may have partially lost my grip on the key, as I was juggling a receipt at the time. Could that make the TRIFECTA appear? The only other time I had the TRIFECTA was when I had to change batteries, and lost coms with ECM, the transmission, and EWS. The TRIFECTA and module codes went away after a few starts, so i was quite relieved. Maybe this TRIFECTA will go away on its' own, too. But why isn't the ignition working until the second turn, suddenly?
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01 BMW X5 E53,3.0i-5L40E, 7/13/01 topas-blau,Leder-grau,"resto-project car" Here: 14 Lexus ES350,3.5L-U660E 09 HHR Panel,2.2L-4T45E 04 Chevy 2500HD,6.0L-4L80E 98 GMC Sierra 1500,5.7L-4L60E Gone: 66 Chevelle Malibu 2dr ht.,327>441c.i.-TH350>PGlide/transbrake 08 Cobalt Coupe,2.2L-4T45E 69 & 75 C10s,350c.i.-TH350 86 S10,2.8L-700R4 73 Volvo 142,2.0L-MT4 72 & 73 VW SuperBeetles,1.6l-MT4 64 VW,1.2l-MT4 67 Dodge Monaco 500 2dr ht.,383c.i.-A727 56 Chevy 210 4dr,265c.i.-PGlide |
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You need to check with a proper code reader. The 2 tries for starting could be a fuel issue and maybe not even related to the trifecta. After it's been sitting for a while the battery could be a bit low too.
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1988 325is (purchased new) sold 2004 X5 3.0 2005 X3 2.5 2008 X5 3.0 (new to me) |
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most likely electrical
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The battery should be OK, as well, with the voltmeter inside the truck (in the cigarette lighter socket in front) reading 12.6v before the first start attempt. I keep a Battery Tender always charging the X5, and the battery itself was new last November, IIRC. I'll take my Foxwell out to check it tomorrow, but surely the Torque Pro app should've detected a fault.
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01 BMW X5 E53,3.0i-5L40E, 7/13/01 topas-blau,Leder-grau,"resto-project car" Here: 14 Lexus ES350,3.5L-U660E 09 HHR Panel,2.2L-4T45E 04 Chevy 2500HD,6.0L-4L80E 98 GMC Sierra 1500,5.7L-4L60E Gone: 66 Chevelle Malibu 2dr ht.,327>441c.i.-TH350>PGlide/transbrake 08 Cobalt Coupe,2.2L-4T45E 69 & 75 C10s,350c.i.-TH350 86 S10,2.8L-700R4 73 Volvo 142,2.0L-MT4 72 & 73 VW SuperBeetles,1.6l-MT4 64 VW,1.2l-MT4 67 Dodge Monaco 500 2dr ht.,383c.i.-A727 56 Chevy 210 4dr,265c.i.-PGlide |
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whoops, it must've been low voltage
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Then, I turned the power supply on (20amps @ 13.5v), plugged-in the Foxwell, and scanned for codes. There were a lot, unusual for my X5, including EWS, TGS, DME, and some others. I went thru them all, clearing them as I went, withe the TRIFECTA still on. Finally, there were three Kombi codes (I'll usually only have the BD (brake force distribution?) code. I cleared them all, and the TRIFECTA went out. I started the X, and the TRIFECTA didn't reappear. As I was putting up my stuff, and plugging-in the onboard Battery Tender (mounted on the rear floor tunnel hump, and plugged into the console's rear cig lighter receptacle), I noticed that the Battery Tender was intermittently flashing both red and green lights (it should have shown solid red, flashing green until full charge, then solid green w/o red). The plug was bent, and must've been damaged 1.5 months ago, when my wife's great nephew leaped into the rear seat, and also tore up the seat cover, as well (fortunately, the leather wasn't harmed). I didn't check the state of charge in between times, trusting the 9 month old battery, and the ostensibly working Battery Tender. My BMW seems particularly sensitive to low battery! Last night, while thinking about the TRIFECTA, I determined that the "BMW" logo/brand might mean "Beobachtet Muss Werden", or "must be observed/monitored", referring to keeping a close eye on the battery, modules, and so many other things that BMW ownership demands. Not so much bitching about it, but just an observation.
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01 BMW X5 E53,3.0i-5L40E, 7/13/01 topas-blau,Leder-grau,"resto-project car" Here: 14 Lexus ES350,3.5L-U660E 09 HHR Panel,2.2L-4T45E 04 Chevy 2500HD,6.0L-4L80E 98 GMC Sierra 1500,5.7L-4L60E Gone: 66 Chevelle Malibu 2dr ht.,327>441c.i.-TH350>PGlide/transbrake 08 Cobalt Coupe,2.2L-4T45E 69 & 75 C10s,350c.i.-TH350 86 S10,2.8L-700R4 73 Volvo 142,2.0L-MT4 72 & 73 VW SuperBeetles,1.6l-MT4 64 VW,1.2l-MT4 67 Dodge Monaco 500 2dr ht.,383c.i.-A727 56 Chevy 210 4dr,265c.i.-PGlide |
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A low battery will cause a trifecta. I've seen it on mine. After a reset and full charge, it doesn't come back.
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I think these E53 are very sensitive to battery and voltage discrepancies.
Get new battery every 4 years in Texas, absolutely NLT 5 years. Most of my problems have been low battery.
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