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Old 04-07-2006, 03:24 PM
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Removing resonator on 4.8 (New Member)

New member here and this is my first post. I have had a black BMW X5 4.8is for the last year and did my first mod to it today. I removed the resonator and replaced it with 2 staight pipes just like others have said to do. I got it back and love the sound... It is amazing watching the heads turn when I go by. The only problem is that I feel like I may have lost some power. It might just be in my head, but I would like to know what others think. Thanks and look forward to hearing everyones input
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:28 PM
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Thats in your head, you didn't lose any power at all. All you did was free up the air movement

So jump in the X, floor the pedal and enjoy.
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any soundclips ?
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Not yet. I just picked it up a couple hours ago. I will work on getting a sound clip for you. I have had the 4.8 for a year now and trust me the sound I heard when I picked it up today made my jaw hit the floor.
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The only problem is that I feel like I may have lost some power. It might just be in my head, but I would like to know what others think.
I don't think it's all in your head, BWC. First of all, I do believe that exhaust mods have different effects on 4.4's vs. 4.6/4.8 powerplants.

I did a resonator removal on my '05 4.8, and I decided to replace it with a crosspipe (Flowmaster Tru-X) instead of straight pipes, because of what I read in this article (link below).

http://www.xoutpost.com/articles/x5/e...-x5-4-6is.html

Synopsis: another boardmember experienced a loss of power when removing resonators and replacing with straight pipes. When he then replaced the straight pipes with smaller, individual resonators (think not-for-street-use glas packs), he achieved the audible improvement he wanted, without a corresponding power loss.

When you remove the factory resonators, you WILL decrease backpressure, which can (and tends to) reduce torque. I learned this same lesson from other E39 M5 owners that tried resonator removals altogether. I installed a SuperSprint x-pipe in that case, and experienced the audio improvement I wanted without any power/torque loss. In that case, I verified pre/post performance on a dyno.

I must say I've done no dyno verification in the case of my X5.

Good luck in getting what you want outta your 4.8!

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It's probably like Teutonaddict said. You loose low end torque with less back pressure. Next time you pull up behind a 330, look at the inside exhaust pipe. You'll se a little butterly valve in there that will close when someone pulls away from the stoplight. It'll open again later on for increased airflow. It's to help with low end torque.

Maybe install the glass pakcs or X-pipe? It's a catch-22 since if you increase back pressure too much, you'll lose power up top.
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Why not leave well enough alone.

What is the point of doing this? Less power and more noise?
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Old 04-08-2006, 08:44 AM
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I've mentioned this before and I'll do it again...

I haven't seen many, wait a minute, any dyno'd X5's. So I couldn't say for sure you lost or gained anything. All I know is that cars I have done this on in the past gained power. While it is very true removing back pressure lessens torque (this is the trouble with modding turbo cars) it also tends to bump horsepower a notch or two. So, unless you are a serious mod person, meaning you actually dyno your ride stock and dyno after mods, it really doesn't matter. If you enjoy the vehicle and your customized version of it...ROCK ON. That is the goal. You already said you loved the sound, go with it.

Some quick notes on modding from a person who has modded track cars and well as first place show cars:

- Performance numbers on a box or from a vendor are NEVER accurate.
- Don't go by what another person told you they got out of a mod, I don't care if the vehicle is the same make/model..all cars are different when it comes to this.
- Do mods in a succession, if you open up the exhaust..open up the intake. If you run Nitrous, upgrade your fuel system..etc.
- Simple mods are a lot of fun and can give you the feeling of speed with out the result from it.


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