OK I did transmission fluid flush on my 02 4.4i

[HPIA4v2]

I have a feeling you'll be fine.
if Castrol is light honey color and check the smell, it's probably is the same/similar/compatible trans fluid as ZF life-guard 5.

I dropped the pan once and drain refill another time using Esso @42k and @70k, my trans pull strong and still downshift agressively in sport mode (especially after I reset the adaptation), now @95k.

On the second drain, the fluid is not as dirty as the first one so I think if you want to fluh trans do it even before the 40k mile mark. Get rid of the metal shaving early for a safe of mind. I did on my 535i due to mechtronic sleeve leaks and yes that fluid is dirty as hell with all 4 circular magnets covered by metal shaving, even @38K.

Honestly, I have to evaluate my opnion on my first post on this thread, "BMW auto-trans may last longer than BMW clutch"; Well, BMW dual flywheel clutch with clutch-delay-valve in the hydraulic line is making my style of driving kinda hard on BMW clutch and my 335xi driveline (the ole single flywheel Audi clutch is more forgiving). with paddle shifter and DTC I will forgo the 3-pedal in the future, just a little rambling.

[TiAgX5]

Originally Posted by e30cabrio

TiAgX5 has real world experience & what he says is logical.

By using this I can do 2 full drains for less than the cost of one.

I have been using Castrol for 30 years and am very comfortable continuing to do so................

Same here. The Castrol name and LT71141 on the bottle was what it took for me to risk a non-ZF fluid in the trans.

[JCL]

Originally Posted by e30cabrio

I have been using Castrol for 30 years and am very comfortable continuing to do so.

I have been using Castrol at least that long as well, and am very comfortable with it. When I didn't use the BMW OE engine oil, I used Castrol Syntec.

The only comment was that their multi-purpose transmission fluid doesn't meet the ZF spec. It is a Dexron fluid that they say is OK to use anyway. Some have had no issues, others have reported issues.

ZF and ZF repair centres know about the problems of putting Dexron fluid in a ZF transmission and specifically warn against it. Yet Castrol imply they have overcome that problem, and also meet just about every other transmission fluid spec at the same time. Amazing accomplishment.

ZF don't make fluid. They just designed the transmission to work with a certain spec of fluid. They control that spec. Lots of companies make fluid to that spec. Castrol doesn't.

I don't think it is a bad fluid. I just think that there are enough variables already with these transmissions and that introducing a non-spec fluid is adding another layer of risk.

[JCL]

I wondered how many ATF recipes Castrol is currently selling.

Transmax MultiVehicle - certified to Dexron VI and Mercon LV
Transmax Dexron VI - certified to Dexron VI
Transmax Dexron/Mercon - not certified, suitable for the older Dex III standard
Transmax ATF+4 - certified for Chrysler specs
Transmax Type F - certified for Ford specs.
Transmax Import Multi Vehicle - certified for Mercon V. Recommended for Dexron III and transmissions in 17 other marques, as well as vehicles using Aisin transmissions, "and various European vehicles that call for Dexron III" No mention of BMW. Hmmm.

Product Data Sheet here:

http://"http://msdspds.castrol.com/b...20_03521_.pdf"

The product data sheet is two years old, and may be out of date. I am not clear whether the bottle label was more influenced by the marketing department at Castrol, or the engineering department.

[TiAgX5]

Originally Posted by JCL

I have been using Castrol at least that long as well, and am very comfortable with it. When I didn't use the BMW OE engine oil, I used Castrol Syntec.

The only comment was that their multi-purpose transmission fluid doesn't meet the ZF spec. It is a Dexron fluid that they say is OK to use anyway. Some have had no issues, others have reported issues.

ZF and ZF repair centres know about the problems of putting Dexron fluid in a ZF transmission and specifically warn against it. Yet Castrol imply they have overcome that problem, and also meet just about every other transmission fluid spec at the same time. Amazing accomplishment.

ZF don't make fluid. They just designed the transmission to work with a certain spec of fluid. They control that spec. Lots of companies make fluid to that spec. Castrol doesn't.

I don't think it is a bad fluid. I just think that there are enough variables already with these transmissions and that introducing a non-spec fluid is adding another layer of risk.

I agree with this entirely.

Always trusted Castrol and the Bentley manual directed me to the Esso LT 71141 fluid spec for the 5HP24 trans, when I saw the LT 71141 on the Castrol MultiCar formula, I no doubt rolled the dice . With 170k miles total (70k with the Castrol (double drain/refill with filter on 2nd drain/fill), and approx 10k of it towing in high temps I have nothing but for the Castrol fluid.
I've seen posts on here where owners have drained/refilled with ZF/filter changed every 60k miles and haven't gotten 170k miles B4 trans issues, even without the towing stress added to the equation.

[e30cabrio]

Now I am more confused. If the fluid meets the standard how is it a gamble? Is it some kind of voodoo that is not true but lets them claim to conform?

[bosanci28]

okay,so if some use Castrol oil ,why not use Valvoline MaxLife too? is still LT 71141...

[e30cabrio]

Originally Posted by SlickGT1

dude Klaus is one guy. He gets like 300 calls a day, he used to have the number but asked to email because he couldn't keep up with demand.

So I ordered almost 24 hours ago. No conformation or communication. I check the order it says completed:

24XX 2013-08-14 14:41:53 $82.65 Completed

After completed it says click for details:
Order Content Product Name Price Quantity Total Filter Kit 5HP24 $64.93
(Not Taxable) 1 $64.93 Subtotal Amount : $64.93 Shipping : $17.72 Tax Amount : $0.00 Total Amount : $82.65

Nothing about shipping.

I'd say communication is pretty far down the to do list.

I just sent a message through the webform. We'll see what happens, I'd say this is verifying why I don't like dealing with companies that don't share phone info.

[TiAgX5]

Originally Posted by e30cabrio

Now I am more confused. If the fluid meets the standard how is it a gamble? Is it some kind of voodoo that is not true but lets them claim to conform?

ZF stated the Castrol fluid was causing trans failure a few years ago and some on the forum question the ability of Castro to produce one oil that meets numerous fluid specs in a single formula. Had I known ZFs position on the use of Castrol I would have used ZF fluid (although this might be ZFs motivation all along, blame trans failures on Castrol, off the hook with customers, and increased ZF fluid sales.....WIN-WIN for ZF!!! ) Seeing as the bottom line for ZF is exactly that....the bottom line, there may be some truth to the statement.

As I stated prior, went with Castrol and have ZERO regrets, pocketed the $s in savings to boot.

[e30cabrio]

Between you & threads like this I feel ok using it:

Castrol Import Multi-Vehicle ATF in ZF transmission?