OK I did transmission fluid flush on my 02 4.4i

[HPIA4v2]

Originally Posted by e30cabrio

I'm sorry if offended you by not having any knowledge of a company I never heard of prior to an hour (or so) ago lighten up dude.

Sometime that's the problem with text/post no one can really grasp fully what other try to say.

In any rate, if you drop the pan and refill, the kit is all you need. You can't drain the torque convertor w/o dropping the tranny or using some sort of extractor (machine to recirculate etc). So you don't need 10-quart.
Unless (again reading between the lines) maybe you are thinking about replacing the filter/pan and on later days do another drain and refill.

Yep, Klaus is the guy coresponding with me, at least that's the signature on the email.
Alot of auto-industry nowadays, prefer text/emails instead of phone as form of communications cause many of them operated by 1-2 front employee/sales sitting on top of a big warehouse. That's how they pass the saving to us, it's a competitive world this auto-parts online business.

[e30cabrio]

Two things. The kit link takes you to nothing available. You have to get the filter and then add the oil. No biggie, just what it is.

Second You can drain and fill. run through the gears on stands or the road and then remove 4 quarts and replace them to get 90 +/-%

[JCL]

Originally Posted by e30cabrio

Second You can drain and fill. run through the gears on stands or the road and then remove 4 quarts and replace them to get 90 +/-%

Let's say it holds 10 quarts. Let's assume you can replace 5. That gets you 50% new fluid.

Now run it, and the fluids mix.

Now drain 5 quarts (2.5 are old, 2.5 are new). Put in five new quarts. Now you are at 75% new fluid.

You would have to do it four times to achieve your 90%.

[e30cabrio]

I disagree on the percentages but regardless if it is 60 or 90 it is better than leaving all that gunk in there and not changing the filter.
*Edit*

I said I want to replace the 6 that will come out by removing the pan. Not 5. Therefore there is whatever is in the torque converter and you can get some out with a pump.

[e30cabrio]

Some good info here:
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ures-poll.html

[e30cabrio]

Got three gallons or 11.35623 L of
Castrol 03521 Transmax Import Multi-Vehicle Automatic Transmission Fluid - 1 Gallon, (Pack of 3) for 66.72 shipped from Amazon and the Filter Kit 5HP24 for $82.65 shipped from CTSC. Now I can run almost 12 litres through it and hopefully it lasts a goood long time.

Thanks for all teh input everyone.

[SlickGT1]

Cabrio, all this talk about using propper fluid, and you go out and buy fluid made for Jap cars. "Multi Vehicle" is saying not meeting spec for ZF. You about to play Russian roulette with a $2500 transmission rebuild because you went with oil that is not meant for your car. Search for the dmackdown JCL hands out because people think all oil is the same.

[e30cabrio]

From here:
http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...es-poll-6.html

Originally Posted by TiAgX5

Figured I would update my experence using the Castrol MultiCar fluid. At almost 170k miles now and trans is still going strong. Even with severe tow duty in extremely high temps.

[e30cabrio]

Castrol USA - Transmax Import Multi–Vehicle

Transmax Import Multi–Vehicle







CASTROL TRANSMAX IMPORT MULTIVEHICLE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID IS FOR USE IN MOST HONDA, TOYOTA, NISSAN AND OTHER IMPORTED VEHICLES.

• Recommended for use in vehicles that require:
  
  
  • Honda, Acura — ATF–Z1 (except in CVTs)
  • Toyota, Lexus — Type T, T–III, T–IV
  • Nissan, Infiniti — Matic–D, Matic–J
  • BMW — LA2634, LT71141
  • Mitsubishi — Diamond SP–II, SP–III
  • Hyundai — SP–II, SP–III
  • Volvo

• Also meets requirements of
  
  
  • ATF+3®, ATF+2®, ATF+®
  • Ford MERCON®, MERCON® V (Not for use where MERCON® SP is required).
  • General Motors DEXRON®–III H and prior (Not for use where DEXRON®–VI is required).
  • Allison C–4

[e30cabrio]

TiAgX5 has real world experience & what he says is logical.

By using this I can do 2 full drains for less than the cost of one.

I have been using Castrol for 30 years and am very comfortable continuing to do so.

Originally Posted by TiAgX5

The ZF-5HP24 is the manufacturer ID, the transmission ID is A5S-440Z. I changed at 100k miles, at 146k miles now, no issues. Used the Castrol fluid that met the BMW spec (Esso LT 71141).

Originally Posted by TiAgX5

When it comes to oils/lubes/fluids I am a firm believer that you ONLY use what meets the manufacturer spec.
When a manufacturer (like ZF), designs an assembly (like an automatic trans), they provide a list of all materials (metals, plastics, rubbers) that will be used in the building of the assembly), to a lubrication provider (Castrol,Mobile 1,LubroMoly,Esso,Shell,Febi,ect.). This is done because ALL lubrication base and additive products have certain materials that they are incompatable with (read, melt certain plastics, dry out certain rubber compounds, soften certain gear band friction materials). Info on surface area of bearings and clutch/drum assemblies is also given to the lube provider because, as friction area decreases (like when a manufacturer adds a 6th gear to a 5 speed box without increasing the internal size),the required lubricity level of the fluid increases.
When it comes to lubricants, some people think that the newest, latest, bestest fluid is better for THEIR vehicle while just the opposite is true. Put a 6sd autobox fluid in a 5spd box that has greater drum/band surface area and you will have excessive slippage and possibly material degradition!

FWIW. If you go to an indy shop and inquire about what type of fluid they use, and hear a response like "we put this new/latest, super-galacticy, slipperer then snake snot fluid in all the high-end cars that come thru here" type line, get in your car and get away from there, fast!!!!!!

Originally Posted by TiAgX5

Castrol Import Car Formula meets the BMW Esso 71141 spec (read the back of the bottle), and it's carried by AutoZone, Advance Auto, Discount Auto, WalMart, ect. I have run it for over 46k miles with severe tow duty and no issues.

Slick, you were in that thread so I'd guess saw his posts.