anyway to verify mileage shown by odometer?

[tttjump]

Where is the mileage stored on an X5?
Is it stored with the cluster or with the main computer?
Can the information be programmed in if the unit that stores the mileage is replaced?

[rayxi]

Originally Posted by tttjump

Where is the mileage stored on an X5?

In at least 3 different places.

Originally Posted by tttjump

Is it stored with the cluster or with the main computer?

Yes to the cluster. Not sure about the ECU.

Originally Posted by tttjump

Can the information be programmed in if the unit that stores the mileage is replaced?

Yes, by the dealer.

Why do you need to know? If the mileage has been altered you will see a dot in the cluster display. Do a search on the site to find a pic.

[toohotdoc]

This dot will also appear if you have ever got your cluster repaired due to pixel problems or have got the cluster replaced.

[4.6is Ryder]

Originally Posted by toohotdoc

This dot will also appear if you have ever got your cluster repaired due to pixel problems or have got the cluster replaced.

Not totally true...I had my cluster replaced about a month ago and I don't have a tamper light....Phil

[tttjump]

The mileage and the condition of the vehicle don't seem to match.
I did a carfax
The car had only 32k on it in 2005, The dealer sold it in 2005 as a CPO car.
Then in 2006 the car has 62k total miles on it.
Between 2006 and 2007 the car had another 10k in miles added.
no other reports in car fax for maint or dmv.
The car looks almost brand new.
I know that it could be a good detail job on the exterior and interior, but not undeneath.

Here are a few photos of the underside,
Rear diff, gas tank, transfer case, muffler , driveshaft, cv, suspension, brake caliper
Look how at the low dust level to no dust level
excuse the focus and size of the photos. I was going for details.
The underneath looks really clean for 73k and to be 5 years old and for the last 40k to be out on in the last two years.
Some of the exhaust bolts look factory new.

[4.6is Ryder]

What year is this X? Also, are you saying that someone put 30k on the ticker in a year? Then only added 10k the next?....Phil

[X5 in AK]

I can't see why someone would tamper with the mileage to make it higher.
Doesn't make any sense.
If 30k was put on in a year, then was obviously a lot of highway miles, which corresponds to the excellent condition the car seems to be in.

That being said, BMW's, if properly taken care of, and not driven in the salt, can easily still look new. My '01 has 90k on it and a lot of people think its a year or two old, or that I just bought it brand new. (I get a lot of comments at work to the effect of 'gee, how do you afford a 50 or 60 thousand dollar car?')

Yours looks to be a really clean car. Looks like you made a good purchase.

[rayxi]

Interesting. So it looks newer than the mileage indictes.

Could it be a salvage job?

[tttjump]

I don't think anyone tinker with it. I was just wondering if it was possible to have the odometer replaced with a higher mileage one and how would the issue be corrected?

I could see the top side of the car being very clean, but I couldn't see how the underside would be so clean with almost 30k put on it in one year.

Here is a copy of the carfax.

The number of owners is estimated by CARFAX Year purchased 2002 2005 2006 Type of owner Private lease --- --- Estimated length of ownership 2 yrs. 9 mo. 2 days 11 months Owned in the following states/provinces California California California Estimated miles driven per year 12,775/yr --- --- Last reported odometer reading 35,025 35,192 73,100
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A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 5 billion vehicle history events and found 16 record(s) for this 2002 BMW X5 4.4I (5UXFB33572LH33842).
Purchased: 2002 Type: Private lease Where: California Est. miles/year: 12,775/yr Est. length owned: 3/25/02 - 1/6/05
(2 yrs. 9 mo.)

Low mileage! This owner drove an estimated 12,775 miles per year, lower than industry average of 15,000 miles. These vehicles can be a better value.

Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 03/23/2002 12 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
03/25/2002 20 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Alamo, CA Title issued or updated
First owner reported
Registered as
private lease vehicle
Loan or lien reported
03/25/2002 Dealer Inventory
California Vehicle sold
01/10/2003 11,406 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Lubed oil and filter changed
Engine serviced
05/20/2003 16,659 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
03/15/2004 26,126 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
08/31/2004 31,735 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Engine serviced
Electrical system serviced
Brakes serviced
01/06/2005 35,025 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale
01/10/2005 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale
01/11/2005 Service Facility Vehicle serviced
Suspension system serviced
02/16/2005 Service Facility Vehicle serviced

Purchased: 2005 Where: California Est. miles/year: --- Est. length owned: 4/13/05 - 4/15/05
(2 days)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 04/13/2005 35,192 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Clayton, CA Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
04/15/2005 Dealer Inventory Vehicle sold

Purchased: 2006 Where: California Est. miles/year: --- Est. length owned: 11/17/06 - 11/6/07
(11 months)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 11/17/2006 62,700 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Concord, CA Title issued or updated
New owner reported
11/27/2006 California
Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection
11/06/2007 73,100 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale

[NOVAX5]

Here is what i see from carfax:
Owner 1: brand new, took a good care of the car, the car stayed clean, low miles.
Owner 2: dealer, auction, the car still stayed clean, low miles (2days of ownership)
Owner 3: travels a lot on highway, but the car still stayed clean because of the short time own.
You: the car looks clean but because of the owner 3 you got high mileage.
30K miles/a year sounds plausible. Thats about 82 miles/day. Not that much. I commute from NOVA to GreenBelt MD, thats about 40 miles oneway, 80miles/day. But i put them on 3 different cars.
Dont worry about it. If you ever find out your dealer cheated you (salvage, flood, junkyard titles) you could get about 10 brand new cars with a lawsuit, and their used car lot will be sold to open up a new McDonald.