European vs. Americam X5

[primetime]

Sounds like there could be some truth to US models being a tad weaker in certain areas..It makes sense since they have to meet US spec..But its kinda dissappointing. I wish the US models were the highest quality or at least up to the Euro standard..

[nra0707]

Originally Posted by jigaro

---What i'am saying is that, over there the people even in the car wash, what they say is that, when the cars are brought from europe they say they hardy have to do any washing from inside, cleaning the leather and such, but on the other hand, when the cars are brought from USA thy say it takes them hours to clean the leather and stuff, they say they get the imression that someone had lived in teh car and eaten there 3 times a day, i dont mean to offend anyone what i'am saying is that here in america WE USE CARS, i mean we really do.

Is the above statement not a broad generalization on a country of almost 200 million licensed drivers based on a limited opinion of car washers in Georgia? It's just heresay. I just think it's ignorant to make statements like that. I'm not saying we need flame retardant rock solid posts here, but don't make statements as if it were fact because "my friends who all drivve German cars and all knoe cars". Honestly...

Oh...and yes, UncleBob, small differences exist based on markets for various safety and regulatory reasons, but retooling a factory line for major region-specific things like suspension, material quality (sparkplugs, leather), etc, as jignaro suggests seems highly unlikely.

[alexz]

Originally Posted by mrkbbd

can I ask why you care? It seems to me all you are doing is insulting the US

LOL this is getting better and better

[jigaro]

Originally Posted by nra0707

This is the most assinine thread ever. BimmerDude's point A alone would be reason enough for BMW not to have region specific vehicles since they're all made in a single factory. And bottom line, who cares if there is a difference? Euro vs. US, Euro vs. world, world vs. US, etc. Let's remind everyone that this is a forum for the appreciation of our X5s and not to spread the kind of anti-american sentiment that will unanimously get flamed by other posters?

Are you fricking kidding me guy? Yoiu need to chill, seemsm to me liek you are insecure, what do you ned to make it a political issue, the very reason i joyned this forum is because i love BMW and i owb one, AMERICAN VERSION TOO? so i do not accept your critisicm, all i'am doing is having a conversation and you did the very thing that i was affraid of. Honestly, i was considering not to start a thread because of this, I I'AM NOT HERE TO HAVE ARGUMENTS AND againn you write things that makes me not start threads or write anything at all.

[jigaro]

Originally Posted by nra0707

Is the above statement not a broad generalization on a country of almost 200 million licensed drivers based on a limited opinion of car washers in Georgia? It's just heresay. I just think it's ignorant to make statements like that. I'm not saying we need flame retardant rock solid posts here, but don't make statements as if it were fact because "my friends who all drivve German cars and all knoe cars". Honestly...

Oh...and yes, UncleBob, small differences exist based on markets for various safety and regulatory reasons, but retooling a factory line for major region-specific things like suspension, material quality (sparkplugs, leather), etc, as jignaro suggests seems highly unlikely.

Here we go again, you guys have a serious problem heraing a different opinion, 200 milion populatyion? hahaah and most of them drive not a GERMAN LUXURY CARS and you know that, and in eurpope all they drive is german cars, they kind of have to, and YES THE CAR WASH PEOPLE DRIVE GERAMNS CARS AS WELL, X5 AND SUCH SO THERE YOU GO, make yourself look ridicilous, i have taken criticism and not sayd anything but i just dont understan why you guys make things political here, there is no need for that, noone has insulted this country i live study and work here and i love this country and for you to assume that i'am insulitn this country i have problem with that, SO JUST LIKE I SAYD BEFORE YEAH 200 MILLION BUT MAJORITY DRIVE TRUCKS AND ...............WHERESE EVEN CARWASH PEOPLE IN MY COUNTRY DRIVE YES BMW'S

[UncleBob]

Originally Posted by primetime

Sounds like there could be some truth to US models being a tad weaker in certain areas..It makes sense since they have to meet US spec.

actually i did some research about taking my swiss X5 to n. america and was told i couldn't because it didn't meet american standards for safety. i would assume that implies that my X5 is not as safe as the american versions although i find that tough to swallow.

i can understand changing the lights and a few other things but safety standards??

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by UncleBob

actually i did some research about taking my swiss X5 to n. america and was told i couldn't because it didn't meet american standards for safety. i would assume that implies that my X5 is not as safe as the american versions although i find that tough to swallow.

i can understand changing the lights and a few other things but safety standards??

Doesn't mean it is not as safe, just means it doesn't match DOT specs. Could be something as dumb as white signals instead of amber....it is all wrapped under the title "safety".

[Wagner]

Originally Posted by jigaro

Here we go again, you guys have a serious problem heraing a different opinion, 200 milion populatyion? hahaah and most of them drive not a GERMAN LUXURY CARS and you know that, and in eurpope all they drive is german cars, they kind of have to, and YES THE CAR WASH PEOPLE DRIVE GERAMNS CARS AS WELL, X5 AND SUCH SO THERE YOU GO, make yourself look ridicilous, i have taken criticism and not sayd anything but i just dont understan why you guys make things political here, there is no need for that, noone has insulted this country i live study and work here and i love this country and for you to assume that i'am insulitn this country i have problem with that, SO JUST LIKE I SAYD BEFORE YEAH 200 MILLION BUT MAJORITY DRIVE TRUCKS AND ...............WHERESE EVEN CARWASH PEOPLE IN MY COUNTRY DRIVE YES BMW'S

[dandruff]

FWIW, the summer package you get in India on an X5 is way more solidly built (eg. no bubbling in upholstery since its the vinylish trim) doesnt look good but doesnt bubble either, the airfilters are different, same box but different filter for the dusty conditions. the leather is smooth with no ridgy texture, just more supple and softer (and yes BMW says its genuine leather), more black trim parts instead of body color even on 2003+ but most importantly even with potholed roads, it rides better, then again you cannot comapre missouri potholes to indian potholes ...

actually i can say the same thing about ford escort in india (way better built and optioned including leather ) then again its not the same escort as sold in US either ...

keep in mind and i dont know how to say this without sounding classist, someone who can afford an X5 in india has more refined tastes / upbringing / schooling / family lineage / old money than lets say an average buyer in US ... and BMW undertands that .. ... more so with a TKD factory in india now ... a typical X5 owner is treated like royalty and cars are pampered at the service station; lot more than job at stake if the guy does a short oil change or forgets to detail an airvent ... less plastic, the fan shroud is held by different pinchers than US ones, in short, i think there are quite a few differences in worldwide markets even if its built in spartanburg ...

[AzNMpower32]

Next thing you know, we're gonna start saying the 3.0i isn't built as well as the 4.4i