Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > BMW SAV Forums > X5 (E53) Forum
Arnott
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Today's Posts New Posts

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-13-2008, 04:04 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 19
imdav2u is on a distinguished road
Oil Separator

Monday before Christmas,my son calls me from the gas station,tells me the X is smoking from under the hood.I call the tow guy,he looks at it and tells me it's the valve cover gasket.He hauls it to Plaza Motors here in St. Louis.The next morning they call me and tell me it will cost $580 to fix.3 hours later they call me back and tell me that the oil sepoarator froze and collapsed,sending pressure into the oil pan and block,causing the valve cover to blow out,over $1300 to fix.So I call back and talk to the head service tech,explain to him the car only has 68 k miles.He tells me he will look into it,calls me back 30 minutes later and tells me there was a recall in 03 and they are going to cover 100%.2weeks and 200 miles later the check engine light comes on and the heater will no longer work.I take it back in,they check it and tell me the electronic thermostat is bad,could have happened before or after the separator problem,so they fix it and again cover 100%.I can't say enough good things about the dealer,but now I'm starting to worry about the X,should I keep it,or is this just the beginning of things to come?Has anyone else had any of the same problems or something worse ?
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links

  #2  
Old 01-13-2008, 04:18 PM
JCL's Avatar
JCL JCL is offline
Premier Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 11,853
JCL will become famous soon enoughJCL will become famous soon enough
The oil separator freezing up is a well known issue, made worse by short trips that don't allow the oil to burn off all of the condensation. The condensate freezes when it gets cold enough. There have been a variety of factory fixes; while they appear to have helped, I think the vehicle is still subject to this problem at times. Do a search on this site on 'oil separator freezing' and you should find quite a few posts.

Sounds like you have a good solid dealer, which will serve you well. As to whether this is the start of a slow decline, well, it isn't a new vehicle any longer. If you have an extended warranty you are in better shape, but you should expect some problems as it ages.
__________________
2007 X3 3.0si, 6 MT, Premium, White

Retired:
2008 535i, 6 MT, M Sport, Premium, Space Grey
2003 X5 3.0 Steptronic, Premium, Titanium Silver

2002 325xi 5 MT, Steel Grey
2004 Z4 3.0 Premium, Sport, SMG, Maldives Blue
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-13-2008, 09:09 PM
hani831's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toronto
Posts: 32
hani831 is on a distinguished road
I never knew this was a issue was recalled, is this for all X5's ?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-13-2008, 09:12 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 19
imdav2u is on a distinguished road
Mine is an 02.The service adviser found a recall from 03 and used it to repair mine.It was nice to have my $1300 bill covered a week before Christmas.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-13-2008, 09:16 PM
primetime's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Kansas city
Posts: 1,763
primetime is on a distinguished road
So is there an actual recall on the oil seperator? What is the process of me getting it replaced if it is a known issue?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-13-2008, 11:56 PM
JCL's Avatar
JCL JCL is offline
Premier Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 11,853
JCL will become famous soon enoughJCL will become famous soon enough
I believe it is an "after failure" campaign, primarily because the vast majority of X5s don't have a problem. There are enough examples that BMW has a fix (heated/insulated breather lines) when required.

If someone has an example of a broad recall for unaffected vehicles, please chime in.
__________________
2007 X3 3.0si, 6 MT, Premium, White

Retired:
2008 535i, 6 MT, M Sport, Premium, Space Grey
2003 X5 3.0 Steptronic, Premium, Titanium Silver

2002 325xi 5 MT, Steel Grey
2004 Z4 3.0 Premium, Sport, SMG, Maldives Blue
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-14-2008, 12:41 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Texas
Posts: 856
lo_jack is on a distinguished road
That is the exact time to expect the seperator to fail, cold or not. I have posted on this before. The seperator system is of a design that requires parts be replaced instead of a built in, permenant system that arguably works less well.

I doubt there is a model wide recall, but plenty of these have been done under warranty.

Yes, things are going to start breaking at 70k. The cooling system will probably be next; waterpump would be my guess. Though I am at 80k and haven't had to do either yet. But I will.
__________________
2001 E53 3.0 5pd
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-14-2008, 05:20 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 115
tonydan1 is on a distinguished road
are all 2000-2006 the same?

Hi,

I had 2000 323ci with the 2.5 liter inside and I never had this problem. Though, I to am getting the white cream in on the oil cap in my 2003 X5.

Is it a different system?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-14-2008, 11:53 PM
JCL's Avatar
JCL JCL is offline
Premier Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 11,853
JCL will become famous soon enoughJCL will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonydan1
Hi,

I had 2000 323ci with the 2.5 liter inside and I never had this problem. Though, I to am getting the white cream in on the oil cap in my 2003 X5.

Is it a different system?
The white creamy substance inside the oil cap comes from moisture in the engine that doesn't get burned off because the engine never really warms up. The moisture is held in suspension in the oil. The solution is to get the engine hot enough every now and then, as short trips are the usual cause.

Recommend that you change the oil, get it good and hot, and then change the oil again. That will usually clean it out.

The oil separator freezing is caused by the same moisture in the oil as I have described above, but the oil separator isn't causing it.
__________________
2007 X3 3.0si, 6 MT, Premium, White

Retired:
2008 535i, 6 MT, M Sport, Premium, Space Grey
2003 X5 3.0 Steptronic, Premium, Titanium Silver

2002 325xi 5 MT, Steel Grey
2004 Z4 3.0 Premium, Sport, SMG, Maldives Blue
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-15-2008, 09:29 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Montreal
Posts: 115
tonydan1 is on a distinguished road
thanks for the reply

i will do it this weekend. though, how would you know if your oil seperator is failing?

at the time it takes, would someone just have to wait it out?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:08 AM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.