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10-07-2008, 07:40 PM
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http://www.xoutpost.com/x5-e53-forum/...ransport+sales This sounds EXACTLY like what I have. So, I called a local mechanic and he said that the computer needs to be adjusted when this happens, however, only the dealerships can do it. I then called the dealership and spoke with a tech. He'd never heard of the "transport" or "sales" modes before. Not a good sign. I have no other choice but to take it to the dealer and have them do a diagnosis. Bummer the average joe can't reset the computer.... BTW, the local mechanic said that a 9V battery connected to the terminals of the cigarette lighter would have prevented this from happening. 
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10-07-2008, 09:26 PM
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the 9v battery "memory holder" does work for the clock settings, and is extremely important in volkswagons as they don't keep the memory in the engine computer.... go volkswagon! But as many batteries as I have changed over the years, I've NEVER had one lose key remote function, and also never had a vehicle go back into transport mode... weird. And transport mode is what the vehicle is put in for shipping overseas and transport to the individual dealer when spanking new with no miles, and is turned off during the pre-delivery check. What it is is all the unnecessary computers and functions are turned off to keep the battery from going down during transport.
But that is not what needs to be done with a new control module. The control modules in BMW's are encoded with vehicle information like vin# etc, and are programmed with updated software versions to fix small bugs and adjust how certain things work. So they are not plug and play, and you have to go in the programming computer, which is a different beast from the diagnostic computer, and mark the control module as replaced. Then the SSS (software service station) will create a "measures plan" and perform all necessary encoding and software adjustments.
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10-07-2008, 10:05 PM
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I'm now convinced that you know more than the dealership does.
I'll be interested to hear what they say. I'm really hoping this is a reprogram and not a replace... Can a "regular" battery change like I did damage the control module? Everything worked great before. I'm struggling with the "cause and effect" here.
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10-07-2008, 10:18 PM
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The battery change should not have affected the module, it is possibly coincidence that the problem happened just then...? With a module as simple as the general module, reprogramming/encoding most likely would not affect your problem, but could be a quick thing to try before replacement. But then you have to pay the labor charge to do it... It may be worth just having them install and encode the new module on their diagnosis, and if it doesn't fix it it's on them and they can't charge for what didn't fix the vehicle, just simply swap it back to the old one. But from the sound of it the tech you talked to may have been a really new tech and not known the system yet... request an experienced tech or master tech from your adviser.
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10-22-2008, 11:49 PM
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Took it to the dealer last week. I was very specific in my instructions. They first reset the fault codes which didn't work. They then tested each part of the door locking system and tried to reset the keys etc. They came to the conclusion that the general module was bad, based on finding that everything else was good. The shop foreman handled the diagnosis himself.
They didn't have the module in stock, so I'm taking it back tomorrow. The service advisor stated that if the new module doesn't fix it I don't have to pay for the part. He quoted me $612 for the module, including installation etc. I was charged $54 for the diagnosis. Normally they charge $121. And they did a heck of a job cleaning the brake dust off of my front wheels.
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10-26-2008, 12:07 AM
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Yeah, the keys work now. However it is different. One "unlock" click opens all of the door locks. It used to take two clicks. The alarm is also weird. The siren doesn't beep when the alarm is activated or the doors are unlocked. I tried to set the alarm off on purpose and it couldn't get it to go off.
I'm going to call the dealership Monday and see if they left it in some mode where the alarm doesn't do anything (like when they work on it in the shop). I did try to unplug the siren and it beeped at me, so I think it still works. I'm going to try to convince them that they broke it or mis-programmed it. Obviously I'm hesitant to take it back and get charged another $600 for a busted (?) alarm module... My car was the last off the lot that day, so hopefully they forgot something. The nice thing about this is that the stupid alarm doesn't go off on its own anymore. Maybe I should make lemonade out of lemons here...
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10-26-2008, 02:31 AM
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10-26-2008, 03:01 AM
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That sounds like a slip up on the techs end... not noting down the car and key memory settings before replacing the module that stored them? tisk tisk.
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