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Old 05-13-2009, 08:05 PM
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Replacement time for 1 caliper

Does anyone here have the BMW repair time for replacing 1 caliper? I have been disputing a repair with the dealership where they charged me 5 hours to replace the right front caliper on a 2001 X5 - The pads and rotors were on 2K miles old so they didn't need replacing. Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-13-2009, 10:12 PM
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I just looked up the BMW labor rate for replacing one front caliper and brake system bleeding with DSC, the total labor for that is about 3.4 hours. Was there any diagnosis time towards determining the caliper to be bad? If they had to do lots of test driving and system checks to diagnose a problem caused by a caliper I could see then adding a 1.5 hour diagnosis fee.
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on my 2001 I replaced all 4 rotors and pads myself in less time than that
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5H is far too long to replace one caliper even after having to bleed the brakes. What is wrong with the caliper? Is it sticky? FYI I had a front sticky caliper last year on my X that would not retract properly after braking. I was able to fix it while changing my pads and rotors by doing the following. After removing the old pads I pressed the brakes to get the brake piston out to its almost max and cleaned the calipers and pistons with brake cleaner. I then sanded the side of the piston with 800 sand paper. Cleaned the all caliper again with brake cleaner and I lubricated the sides of the pistons with some drops of ATF oil and pushed it back using the old pad and a clamp. Between replacing the front rotors and pads and working on the caliper it took me about 2h. 10k miles later I still have no more problem with the sticky caliper.
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sometimes I wunder......how they calculate the rate...

i recall dealing asking $650 to change 2 control arms (P&L)
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Weasal - I was hoping you would respond back - The dealer I go to charges $115 an hour for labor. I had the brakes flushed there several months ago for $115 - so I assume 1 hour labor - so you are saying the book is roughly 2.4 hours for just the caliper replacement. It still seems high to me, but as a Master Tech and Loyal X5 owner I have no choice but to believe you. Thanks again for chiming in.
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Old 05-14-2009, 08:00 AM
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Actually the caliper labor was only about 1.8, but the bleeding labor is higher than the brake fluid flush labor due to the DSC unit having to be bleed electronically as well.
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Let me hear your thoughts...as I'm still a believer on the 2 man brake bleed vs. the motive brake bleeder to get the firmest pedal...


Just short of the GT1/diag computer to bleed the ABS unit, is there any other benefit to having the dealer bleed the brakes vs.... DIY/INDY.

I guess the same question applies to alignments and the KDS SYSTEM.....

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Old 05-14-2009, 07:17 PM
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Let me hear your thoughts...as I'm still a believer on the 2 man brake bleed vs. the motive brake bleeder to get the firmest pedal...


Just short of the GT1/diag computer to bleed the ABS unit, is there any other benefit to having the dealer bleed the brakes vs.... DIY/INDY.

I guess the same question applies to alignments and the KDS SYSTEM.....

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The 2 man DIY is sufficient, but the machines that pump fresh fluid into the master to keep it filled and pressurized so all you gotta do is open a bleeder valve and activate the dsc pump to push air past it. If you have no air and are just doing a flush, then the 2 man just takes longer than the machine and ties up 2 techs for 4 times as long as one with the machine.

As for the alignments, the heads at the dealer sit flush against the hub through the small holes in the rims vs clamp onto the rim possibly slipping and/or scratching them. And the dealer techs know the alignment specs and procedures much better than an average indy, and would know what components to look for if the specs don't come in.
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Weasel - thanks for your feedback - this is the type of information I was hoping for

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