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Old 06-02-2015, 07:46 PM
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Both my outer front CV axle boots were R&R'ed with fresh boots, completely disassembled, cleaned of old grease and reassembled with all new grease for approx 1.5 hours per side taking my time.

Only thing needed is remove brake disc, caliper, axle nut, press out axle from hub, and disconnect bottom 2 strut bolts. Pop outer joint off the axle and leave the axle shaft and inner joint installed on vehicle.

Doing it right isn't an insane amount of time IMO (I'm sure a BMW mechanic or experienced shop can do it faster than I can) and the time you will use waiting for glue to cure and cleaning every speck of a mm to be sure the seam is glued properly isn't worth it.

This is coming from a highly successful and regarded Axle shop who supplies with rock solid replacement axles:
Split Boots for CV Axles Explained - Raxles Inc.
You are one of the supremely fortunate ones who was able to take your axle out from the hub. If you didn't run out and buy a lottery ticket, you should have, because MANY of us, as documented through this very long thread, weren't so lucky. I tugged, pried, pounded, and swore at mine for many hours before finally and reluctantly giving up, but not before trying every tip, trick, and suggestion in this thread first. Taking the axle out from the inside, which I and the rest of the unlucky ones had to do, easily quintuples the time it takes to replace the boots. Makes the split boot idea very tempting, despite the drawbacks stated in the link you provided. Thankfully, my (not-so-new anymore) boots are holding up, but if one of them splits again, there's no way I'm going to go through the axle removal ordeal again.
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You are one of the supremely fortunate ones who was able to take your axle out from the hub. If you didn't run out and buy a lottery ticket, you should have, because MANY of us, as documented through this very long thread, weren't so lucky. I tugged, pried, pounded, and swore at mine for many hours before finally and reluctantly giving up, but not before trying every tip, trick, and suggestion in this thread first. Taking the axle out from the inside, which I and the rest of the unlucky ones had to do, easily quintuples the time it takes to replace the boots. Makes the split boot idea very tempting, despite the drawbacks stated in the link you provided. Thankfully, my (not-so-new anymore) boots are holding up, but if one of them splits again, there's no way I'm going to go through the axle removal ordeal again.
You don't need to take the axle out of the hub. Just pop the circlip out of the cv joint itself, as described in this thread. 30 minutes in and out after putting it up on the lift (once you get the angle correct to pop the circlip out). It's easy. Really.
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You don't need to take the axle out of the hub. Just pop the circlip out of the cv joint itself, as described in this thread. 30 minutes in and out after putting it up on the lift (once you get the angle correct to pop the circlip out). It's easy. Really.
I either missed that one, or it was posted after I went ahead and replaced mine. But also, I don't have a lift (I wish!). Not that it matters (to me, anyway) at this point, but does the circlip removal method work if all you have is a jack and jack stands?
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does the circlip removal method work if all you have is a jack and jack stands?
Yes.

Look at the design of a cv joint.

The clip on the right side is the one I'm talking about. It holds the axle into the cv joint. Not exactly how our joint looks, but you can get the idea from it.

You take the middle control arm bolt to the front subframe off, then pry the axle off (it would have helped to have a second set of hands, but it's doable by yourself). Finding the right leverage point is the key. Once you look at it you can likely figure it out easily.
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Yes !

The drop the control arm and uncliping the joint from the shaft allows you to insert the new boot over the joint. This quick solution is only a complete repair if the boot has just cracked or beginning to split and you catch it Before dirt or water gets into the grease and bearings.
This project is quick and can be accomplished with just the front jacked up on stands. Takes 1 hr plus set up, clean up, and dropping the X5 back down on the wheels. There are lots of images posted on this process.

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Pushing the axle hub out and pulling the axle free, doing a COMPLETE bearing tear down and cleaning out all the grease, inspecting and repacking the boots, is in my opinion the correct way to go IF you are in anyway concerned about dirt or water contamination , or if the condition of the bearing is in question. ESPECIALLY, if there was any snapping and popping coming from the front end on HARD full lock turns. The process of turning clockwise or counterclockwise to determine CV joint condition, forces the joint into max flex position exposing joint "looseness", hence the joint no longer flexes freely but snaps from position to position as the ball bearings have worn spots and or cage is bent.
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You are one of the supremely fortunate ones who was able to take your axle out from the hub. If you didn't run out and buy a lottery ticket, you should have, because MANY of us, as documented through this very long thread, weren't so lucky. I tugged, pried, pounded, and swore at mine for many hours before finally and reluctantly giving up, but not before trying every tip, trick, and suggestion in this thread first. Taking the axle out from the inside, which I and the rest of the unlucky ones had to do, easily quintuples the time it takes to replace the boots. Makes the split boot idea very tempting, despite the drawbacks stated in the link you provided. Thankfully, my (not-so-new anymore) boots are holding up, but if one of them splits again, there's no way I'm going to go through the axle removal ordeal again.

I am one of the fortunate ones but be aware that I am in the salt belt up here in Jersey as well so I'm not working on a pristine Florida X5.

After 10 years I figured the axle and nut would be on there pretty good, so I did 2 things
1) Rented the proper tools to get the axle out of the hub (if you ever get your wheel bearings done the axle would need to come out at some point)
2) Popped the center caps off my wheels, and used Penetrating Oil (I used PB Blaster, but Kroil, WD40 even, or the popular 1:1 ATF/Acetone mix works even better) on the center Axle nut and around it to loosen the axle nut and penetrate into the axle splines, twice a day for the 5 days prior to starting the job.

I used a Hub Puller flange which bolts down over the hub with 3 wheel bolts, and uses a threaded rod in the middle which when used with proper wrench on the hex portion of the rod will "push in" the axle out of the hub, once you have the axle nut removed. Note that once I had axle nut removed I sprayed the axle splines liberally with penetrating oil to loosen it up.

No hammering on the axle stub, and no issues. I will note, that if you want to do the job properly and not run into snags, you need to plan ahead, and you need to not be in a rush. Don't try to finish before the kids soccer games, etc. My wheel bearings were actually a much bigger problem that removing the axle and replacing the boots. But I planned ahead for it. With any big job on these cars, something you definitely need to do.
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I am one of the fortunate ones but be aware that I am in the salt belt up here in Jersey as well so I'm not working on a pristine Florida X5.

After 10 years I figured the axle and nut would be on there pretty good, so I did 2 things
1) Rented the proper tools to get the axle out of the hub (if you ever get your wheel bearings done the axle would need to come out at some point)
2) Popped the center caps off my wheels, and used Penetrating Oil (I used PB Blaster, but Kroil, WD40 even, or the popular 1:1 ATF/Acetone mix works even better) on the center Axle nut and around it to loosen the axle nut and penetrate into the axle splines, twice a day for the 5 days prior to starting the job.

I used a Hub Puller flange which bolts down over the hub with 3 wheel bolts, and uses a threaded rod in the middle which when used with proper wrench on the hex portion of the rod will "push in" the axle out of the hub, once you have the axle nut removed. Note that once I had axle nut removed I sprayed the axle splines liberally with penetrating oil to loosen it up.

No hammering on the axle stub, and no issues. I will note, that if you want to do the job properly and not run into snags, you need to plan ahead, and you need to not be in a rush. Don't try to finish before the kids soccer games, etc. My wheel bearings were actually a much bigger problem that removing the axle and replacing the boots. But I planned ahead for it. With any big job on these cars, something you definitely need to do.
You be the man! Thanks for posting this as it CAN NOT be said too often on all type of repairs.
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