Just installed Pirelli Scorpion Ice & Snows

[c4racer]

Originally Posted by FSETH

A good summer or all-season tire should handle heavy rain just fine. My Pirelli Scorpion Zeros are good and my old Toyo S/T's were fantastic in the rain. I have never driven a vehicle in the rain with as much confidence as the X5 on those old Toyo's. Among many other reasons, your winter's may have felt better in the rain because they are much skinnier than your summer tires.

Running winter tires in summer creates a dangerous situation as the heat causes them to become even softer than they were designed to be run. This causes longer stopping distances and reduced handling capabilities.

I agree and I always run summer tires on all my other cars except the wifes where I run higher treadwear rating all seasons. And I have always experienced excellent wet performance with summer tires. But for whatever reason the Yokohama Advans are terrible and flat out scary in the rain even with AWD. Go figure. Needless to say I won't be getting another set of those. Toyo S/Ts will probably be my choice for summers next time. Although I really don't mind just running the winters for the 4-5 months of the ski season as it saves me the hassle of swapping. And it doesn't rain all that much in the other months. But it's pretty silly to have an AWD SUV that does terrible in the rain. Especially now that my wife is driving it to transport kids... So for sure will get a better summer or even all season tire to run in the summer next time. But likely will stick with snows for the winter because I tend to go during the worst blizzards of the year in the Sierra's chasing powder and it can get ugly up there.