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Old 10-15-2010, 05:18 PM
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Scenario:

BMW installs RFT, promotes safety benefits in case of blow out.
Some drivers that prefer non-RFT start campaign to get BMW to change back.
BMW removes RFT in response to pressure
BMW car with non-RFT crashes, injures driver and passengers.
Driver sues BMW for deleting safety equipment.

Ain't never gonna happen.

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thats a very valid point JCL. its really actually pretty sad how the entire world revolves around lawsuits these days.

but what about the distance that the RFTs allow. I know this is a far stretched situation, but lets assume that i'm driving in the middle of south dakota in the middle of the night. BAM my tire goes out. After the allotted 60 or so miles, then what?
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:25 PM
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..but what about the distance that the RFTs allow. I know this is a far stretched situation, but lets assume that i'm driving in the middle of south dakota in the middle of the night. BAM my tire goes out. After the allotted 60 or so miles, then what?
If it is a sudden blowout, BMW published a recommendation to continue for up to 100 miles. If it is a slower deflation, and not a blowout, BMW published a recommendation to continue for up to 1200 miles. How far is it to a garage in South Dakota?

If you drive further, you are unlikely to be able to repair the RFT. But you can probably push a fair bit of distance if you keep your speed down. They aren't unlike temporary spares, which have similar speed/distance limitations.
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Old 10-15-2010, 05:30 PM
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If it is a sudden blowout, BMW published a recommendation to continue for up to 100 miles. If it is a slower deflation, and not a blowout, BMW published a recommendation to continue for up to 1200 miles. How far is it to a garage in South Dakota?

If you drive further, you are unlikely to be able to repair the RFT. But you can probably push a fair bit of distance if you keep your speed down. They aren't unlike temporary spares, which have similar speed/distance limitations.

well i've never driven in south dakota so i have no idea. just an odd example

my X5 has an almost full size spare (the 17" wheel) so i could drive on that for as long as i really wanted. I do have a small discomfort towards the RFTs; but, i'm not about to stop buying BMW because of it. Within the next couple years i can see most car companies making the switch--well atleast all luxury car companies
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Scenario:

BMW installs RFT, promotes safety benefits in case of blow out.
Some drivers that prefer non-RFT start campaign to get BMW to change back.
BMW removes RFT in response to pressure
BMW car with non-RFT crashes, injures driver and passengers.
Driver sues BMW for deleting safety equipment.

Ain't never gonna happen.
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As usual, JCL's distillery skills nail the issue...RFTs are here, they ain't going away, (the Biff&Buffy LowImpact/"Safety" hook),
so drive 'em or, toss 'em. Anyone can put a spare on any X5, somewhere; my Vette is another issue, space-wise). It is what it is.

Kudos to JCL for boiling this arm wrestle item, down. Take your pick
and learn to live with it, imo.
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I think the point of his message is that newer BMW's come without spares, the 06 X5 he owns has the spare, and will be his last BMW over a silly little detail like that.

If you're that worried about getting stranded, get a AAA membership card and use it to wash the sand out of your vagoo.

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