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Old 11-21-2011, 09:23 AM
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Help with misfires

Hi. I have a 2001 4.4 sport (133,000 miles) that is running really rough and the check engine light flashing. It seems to run smooth until it gets warm, then the idle gets very rough and misfires. I pulled the codes and I got: P1341, P1343 and P1345. I thought maybe a good tune-up could be the culprit since its never had one. So I changed all the plugs, all 8 coil packs and both left and right camshaft position sensors. Once I finished I started up the car and it still runs rough and I'm seeing the same codes. I purchased 4 new O2 sensors and am going to try that route next, but before I ruin those with possibly more misfires is there anything else I could try? I need to get this back on the road soon so any help is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you.
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Hi. I have a 2001 4.4 sport (133,000 miles) that is running really rough and the check engine light flashing. It seems to run smooth until it gets warm, then the idle gets very rough and misfires. I pulled the codes and I got: P1341, P1343 and P1345. I thought maybe a good tune-up could be the culprit since its never had one. So I changed all the plugs, all 8 coil packs and both left and right camshaft position sensors. Once I finished I started up the car and it still runs rough and I'm seeing the same codes. I purchased 4 new O2 sensors and am going to try that route next, but before I ruin those with possibly more misfires is there anything else I could try? I need to get this back on the road soon so any help is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you.
You may want to check the oil separator hoses. They tend to get mushy and split causing engine misfires. See the following thread for details:

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I appreciate the tip, but I just replaced them a couple of months ago, so it has to be something else. Ill give them a look tonight when I get home to see if they are connnected properly, but Im wondering if it has to do with the emmissions/obd since it only gets rough once the car warms up?
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Check for vacuum leaks or ignition coil(s) needs replacing.
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I just changed all 8 coil packs with new ones last night with no change in performance, but how can I test vacuum leaks at home? Do I need special tools?
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Just checked the two oil separator hoses and they seem tight on their connections and in good shape. Any ideas? Is there a common place where there could be a big enough vacuum leak that would cause my problems? I have noticed a small amount of oil smoke from the back of the engine for a short while while it's warming up. I will be replacing my valve cover gaskets eventually but there was not much oil near the plug boots so I don't think that could be the issue. Is there something in the back of the engine that could be leaking that I have not thought of? The OSV doesn't seem to be leaking. Do you think I should do the valley pan gasket?
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you mentioned the coil packs, but did you pull the plugs?? Try the plugs.
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So I changed all the plugs, all 8 coil packs and both left and right camshaft position sensors.
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you mentioned the coil packs, but did you pull the plugs?? Try the plugs.
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Just checked the two oil separator hoses and they seem tight on their connections and in good shape. Any ideas? Is there a common place where there could be a big enough vacuum leak that would cause my problems? I have noticed a small amount of oil smoke from the back of the engine for a short while while it's warming up. I will be replacing my valve cover gaskets eventually but there was not much oil near the plug boots so I don't think that could be the issue. Is there something in the back of the engine that could be leaking that I have not thought of? The OSV doesn't seem to be leaking. Do you think I should do the valley pan gasket?
Well that depends. Does the smoke look bluish at all? Is the smell like burning oil or something sweet? I already forgot in the thread, but you said a SEL light was blinking, did you ever get a chance to pull the codes? Let us know.
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Rough idle can be a sign of a failed PCV valve on the back of the inlet manifold. If the hoses where bad enough to warrant changing then it a good chance the valve has failed or is failing. There is a vacuum test you could try on the rocker cover, but this needs the right equipment that the average Mechanic won't have. A lot of people in the know consider this valve to be a service item as its very important in the correct running of the car.
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