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2004 X5 Injector issue
I took all the plugs out and 2 plugs cores were burned and the tips of the plugs were burned right off. So I changed all the plugs did not use the coil in the truck ran fine. About a week or two prior I had went to a restaurant and came out of the restaurant to start the truck and the truck didn’t start for three starts about an hour later after I did the complete six plugs tine up and started miss firing again. Now the truck was cutting off and dying at lights . So out of curiosity of it being a fuel problem and not a spark issue because I had just changed almost all the coils and all six plugs I started banging on the fuel pump underneath the passenger rear seat. To my surprise when I smacked in the fuel pump the trucks smoothed out and start running better. I then went and ordered a new fuel pump and fuel filter and change them the next day. Truck ran great after that but after two or three days the misfire came back. Cylinder number four. Change the coil, checked the plug, bought a new plug and new coil, change them out, no change in the way the car ran, still had a misfire cylinder number four. So now I’m looking at a fuel injector issue. opened up the fuel injector harness and checked for computer ground to injector pulse on the grounding wire to the DME (I believe) and I seen injector grounding from positive battery to PCMDME injector ground. Check for power on the power side of the injector and had power on both injectors three and four (checked the one right next to it) when I start truck up runs fine but after a while fifteen minutes to twenty minutes of driving cylinder number four injector stops pulsing to ground on PCM / DME . check engine light illuminates and says cylinder number four misfire. pulled coil and coil is sparking every rotation of motor perfectly fine so it’s not the coil side it is on the injector side that the issues arising . while truck is running and check engine light is illuminated, cylinder number for injector does not ground flash. Truck can still be running amd while I clear codes , computer injector ground comes back immediately after clearing code. Same thing when I shut the truck off and start back up. Truck can be miss firing I shut truck off and start it back up and immediately the injector starts working again. Question : is the issue the injectors self or is it an issue with the DME/PCM injector drive ground it’s obviously not a wiring issue or the problem would be persistent. where do I go from here ? do I blindly change the injector and hope for the best or is there a common problem with injector drive on the DME/PCM anybody who Is knowledgeable on these vehicles and the electrical injection system would you please point me in the right direction that would be great |
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You have a misfire with fuel cutoff. That means the computer have detected a misfire or multiple misfires and have turned off the injection pulse to the injector(s). This is to prevent damage to the catalytic converter from raw gas that is being burned in the cylinders. Before throwing more parts at it, you should do a compression test of all the cylinders. You could have a cylinder that is lower in compression reading and thus will produce less power. Less power from a cylinder means a misfire to the Computer.
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You could also try swapping injectors between two cylinders to see if the problem moves.
Also, most of the story sounds pretty normal, and your debugging is great. Except what about this: "2 plugs cores were burned and the tips of the plugs were burned right off" ??? I'd try to figure out an explanation for that one and not just hope it does not come back.
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2006 Infiniti G35 2001 BMW 3.0I E53 X5 Build date 08/2000 SOLD Lotus Europa 1970 Destroyed by fire Lotus Europa 1970 S2 Renault Powered Lotus Type 52 1970 Twincam Webers Powered PORSCHE 911 Targa 1982 The Garage Queen Audi Avant donated to Kars for Kids BMW 525IT Sold Audi 4000CS Quattro Sold Jensen Healey Lotus Powered Sold Opel 1900 Sold Triumph Spitfire 1971 Sold Triumph Spitfire 1968 Sold Plymouth "Cuda" 340 Six pack SOLD |
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Here are the part numbers: 6x lower O-Rings for Fuel Injector (7.52 X 3.52 mm) 13641437487 6x upper O-Rings for Fuel Injector (9.2 X 2.8 mm) 13641437486
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Hey guys, similar thing when I bought my 4.6is X5, was never wowed by it by performance during the test drive but I believed in it :-) On the way home at high RPMs the check engine flickered and the truck lost power...ran code and it was missfire cyl1 fuel cut off..after running slow for a while it ran fine until i pushed above 5000 rpm. So what could affect cyl 1 only? change injectors (all 8), plugs, and coils and? ran better but still happening...
Come to find out the CAT on bank 1 was all clogged up.. weird how it wasn t affecting all cylinders... Anyway, tap your cat(s) with a fist or mallet, if you hear any sound i d change them (or it if only one on a 6 banger). $1200 a pop!! so I got a set of high flows aftermarket and oh boy...that wake it right up :-) |
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