Overlap between E53 and Range Rover

[PropellerHead]

Originally Posted by Gurltech

Hmmm...I have a 2006 X5 4.4i Nav and DSP. My friend has a 2006 RR Sport HSE.
I envy the large touch screen Nav in her car and the sound system, far superior to the X5. Why did they not give the X5 the RR's sound system?

Because by 2006, the divorce of BMW and Land Rover had been complete for 6 years. The Range Rover Sport does not share drivetrain components with BMW. Both of the V8's (4.2 and 4.4) are Jaguar. In the 2006 L322 Range Rover, they replaced the BMW M62 with a Jaguar 4.2L V8.

[PropellerHead]

Originally Posted by amacman

I suspect the BMW inline 6 is based on the Austin Healy engine .

Just because the 4cyl Dixi was licensed from the Austin Motor company, doesn't mean BMW's 6 cyl automotive motor from 1933 was based on anything Healy. The 'modern' 6 cyl motors are based on the M30 which was derived by adding two cylinders and a 30 degree 'slant' to the (4cyl) M10 in the 60's.

To be clear, the very first inline 6 was made by the Dutch in 1903 (Spyker). The BMW automotive inline 6 was based on the 1917 Rapp Motorenwerk (later called BMW) aircraft motor- the BMW IIIa. The BMW IIIa: Based on Merc's DIIa aircraft motor. The Merc? You guessed it- Ferdinand Porsche's Austro-Daimler aircraft motor from 1910.

[RRPhil]

This table shows the L322 driveline changes. The BMW diesel engine held on until '07 model year before being replaced with the 3.6 TDV8



Phil

[PropellerHead]

Originally Posted by RRPhil

This table shows the L322 driveline changes. The BMW diesel engine held on until '07 model year before being replaced with the 3.6 TDV8

Great info on the i6 Diesel unit in the UK. Hopefully any readers with that question in mind will find the answer here.

[NicholasW]

Wow. That was a lot of history and information in one short thread. Good info.

[tkasser]

I have a 2003 4.8iS and a 2006 Ranger Rover HSE. While the Engine and Nav are different. A lot of the control modules are the same. The RR even has the old E38 (pre 1999) key.

[PropellerHead]

Originally Posted by tkasser

I have a 2003 4.8iS

Typo?

[amacman]

Originally Posted by JCL

BMW V8 engines are not based on the Rover/GM 215 V8. The BMW pushrod V8 predates the Buick engine. Later BMW V8 engines were DOHC, nothing in common with the 215.

BMW was making six cylinder engines twenty years before the BMC C engine came out.

I think your Union Jack is clouding your vision

That was not one of my silly joke replies and Union Jack does not cloud my vision , I was merely trying to point out some historical ties with Rover .
Toyota also started out building their version of the Austin 7 .

I am aware BMW had a V8 pre-dating the Buick .
I have read various stuff online from quality articles stating the M60 / M62 V8`s are a version of the Rover V8 which itself is a version of the Buick .
BMW used DOHC heads on the block , so the block is the copied design .

Did you know you can fit the DOHC cylinder head from a BMW K1000 motorcycle straight onto the engine block of the original Mini which was built with a pushrod OHV head , All you need is a crankshaft pulley to drive the cambelt .

Thanks to propellerhead for the info on the inline 6 .
And RRPhil for the diesel info , which I knew and had actually typed into my first post with other info but alas , as often happens when I take some time to type a reply , the system craps out and tells me to log in again thus losing everything I typed and so what you end up seeing is my 2nd or 3rd attempt at replying which is why it sometimes gets a bit peeeved or half arsed in it`s content .

Anyhoo , breakfast is done and I got stuff to do so see y`all later .

EDIT , The fookin system done it again , I managed to get around it and saved this reply whist I linked in again .
Same crap happened on the recent tyre thread and I lost a long post with good info .

And by the by I think Range Rover used the BMW diesel long before 2002 and long before BMW bought them out . I`m sure the P38 RR from 1994 used it .

[JCL]

Originally Posted by amacman

I have read various stuff online from quality articles stating the M60 / M62 V8`s are a version of the Rover V8 which itself is a version of the Buick .
BMW used DOHC heads on the block , so the block is the copied design .

Check your quality sources. The bore spacing is different, likely due to Improvements in metallurgy and engine design that transpired over the 31 years between the two designs. 98 mm vs 108 mm. Hard to see how it can be a copy.

[tkasser]

Originally Posted by PropellerHead

Typo?

Typo. 4.6iS.